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no.
I say YES:
Bruce Bowen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bowenbr01.html
Bruce Bowen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bowen
*** Eight times on All-Defensive Team (of 17 players in NBA history)
*** Five times 1st-Team, All-Defensive (of 17 players in NBA history)
*** Twice runner-up for DPOY
*** Three NBA Championships (of 66 players in NBA history) [after you throw out Celtics from the 1960s and scrubs who didn't play much, there are not many starters with 3 rings]
* Six Times played 82 games
** Five consecutive seasons played 82 games
*** 14th All-Time, most Threes made in Playoffs (168) [8th among active players]
*** 13th All-Time, best Three-point FG% in playoffs (.422) [6th among active players]
** Led NBA in Three-Point Shooting Percent in 2003
* 42nd among active players in Threes made in regular season
* 22nd among active players in Three-point FG%
* 65th all-Time in Defensive win shares in playoffs (15th among active players)
* 27th among active players for total win shares in playoffs
* 15th among active players for steals in playoffs
* Selected to USA international team in 2006
* Shoots cool Three-point daggers from the corners
* Scrappy, controversial player is plays clean, but is accused of being dirty sometimes
* Tim Duncan's best friend on the Spurs & a true team player
BRUCE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL!
no.
No way, not even close.
I think he's borderline until voters bring up his cool three pointers and best friend. Then he's a shoo-in.
worst thread ever.
If an NBA player were a top ten scorer eight times, and a top five scorer five times, and started on three NBA championship teams, plus a pet defensive stat they were very good at, they would not only be a Hall-of-Fame shoo-in, but also a top 50 player of all time.
Bruce is just this, in reverse.
You fail.
And the HOF doesn't recognize any of that for the most part. So no, not even close.
Texas Sports HOF at best.
name another NBA player reasonbly close to Bruce in All-Defensive honors and NBA rings, who is not in the Hall?
* 65th all-Time in Defensive win shares in playoffs (15th among active players)
* 27th among active players for total win shares in playoffs
* 15th among active players for steals in playoffs
* Selected to USA international team in 2006
* Shoots cool Three-point daggers from the corners
* Scrappy, controversial player is plays clean, but is accused of being dirty sometimes
* Tim Duncan's best friend on the Spurs & a true team player
BRUCE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL!
Michael Cooper
Well Bruce isn't the player you just described there, so that point is irrelevant (and pure conjecture anyway). He's never even made an All-Star team and you think he should be in the HOF?! One-dimensional role players don't get into the HOF, nor should they, no matter how good they are at that one dimension or how many rings they collect. Otherwise Steve Kerr would be in the HOF. Bruce was a great on-the-ball perimeter defender. That's it. Offensively he was a complete liability, other than the occasional wide-open corner 3. He couldn't create for himself, couldn't create for others, had no mid-range game, couldn't hit a free throw to save his live, was horrible in transition, had no ball-handling or passing skills whatsover, was an atrocious rebounder, wasn't a shot-blocker, and didn't even collect many steals. Put him in a man-to-man defensive position out on the perimeter and he was as good as they come. In every other facet of the game he was absolutely horrendous. He's the defensive equivalent of Craig Hodges. That is NOT what the HOF is all about.
YOU fail.
Last edited by Steve-O-Matic; 05-07-2009 at 10:48 AM.
He'll get his number retired by the Spurs, which is enough for him.
he should be, what he does is just important as a career 20+ ppg scorer.
look at it this way. Iverson will probably get in, and Bruce is the complete foil of iverson, so he should too.
Bruce deserves to be in the Hall-of Fame, but I guess he won't make it.
Coop is a virtual clone.
I'm with you buddy!
noI say YES:
Bruce Bowen
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...bowenbr01.html
Bruce Bowen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bowen
*** Eight times on All-Defensive Team (of 17 players in NBA history)
*** Five times 1st-Team, All-Defensive (of 17 players in NBA history)
*** Twice runner-up for DPOY
*** Three NBA Championships (of 66 players in NBA history) [after you throw out Celtics from the 1960s and scrubs who didn't play much, there are not many starters with 3 rings]
* Six Times played 82 games
** Five consecutive seasons played 82 games
*** 14th All-Time, most Threes made in Playoffs (168) [8th among active players]
*** 13th All-Time, best Three-point FG% in playoffs (.422) [6th among active players]
** Led NBA in Three-Point Shooting Percent in 2003
* 42nd among active players in Threes made in regular season
* 22nd among active players in Three-point FG%
* 65th all-Time in Defensive win shares in playoffs (15th among active players)
* 27th among active players for total win shares in playoffs
* 15th among active players for steals in playoffs
* Selected to USA international team in 2006
* Shoots cool Three-point daggers from the corners
* Scrappy, controversial player is plays clean, but is accused of being dirty sometimes
* Tim Duncan's best friend on the Spurs & a true team player
BRUCE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL!
You can't be serious.
I'm dead serious. We should all pe ion David Stern. DEMAND THAT BRUCE BE ENSHRINED!
Dennis Rodman.
-2 time DPOY
-7 time rebounding champ (edit, made a mistake, it's 7 not 3)
-8 time all defense (7 time first team all defense)
-2 time 3rd team all NBA
-2 time all star
-5 time NBA champion (4 times he was a starter, the other he was a part time starter)
It's been 9 years since his last NBA game, and he's not in the HOF.
I believe that the cool three point daggers from the corners make for a compelling argument. That, and being buddies with Timmy.
The omission of the HEB commercials from your analysis shocks me, however, and I feel completely weakens your argument. For that reason, I have to vote 'no' based strictly upon your presentation. Come back with some strong Henry Butt smack and I may be swayed.
Rodman will get in. He is a top-50 all time player, according to Kalb, the stats man.
His offcourt antics are keeping him out for a while.
Simply retiring his jersey would make me happy.
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