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    Veteran DrHouse's Avatar
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    Maybe not the "best" anymore, but he's still the most skilled.

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    sure, lebron's the best though. I don't think this is even disputable anymore.

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    Believe. Yuushi12's Avatar
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    Maybe not the "best" anymore, but he's still the most skilled.
    Dude . as much as i am a spurs fan. i agree i just wish he could return to his form

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    Hand Down, Man Down!!!!!! Laker-fan-in-SanAnto's Avatar
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    "He's just living vicariously, through himself"

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    Oh no


    Not that again.






    Ok, Kobe, Wade and LBJ are all equally good.

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    offensively? yes. lebron nor wade can never touch kobe, but overall lebron is the best and wade is about even with kobe right now.



    problem with kobe is he's stubborn and have horrible shot selection.


    if he changes that, then yes i have no doubt he's going to be the best player in the league right now. but the dude has peaked imo.

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    I would say in this Rocket series Kobe has had very good shot selection.

    When he takes the MIDRANGE jumper right above the F/T line it's pretty much a layup. This is with all world defender Battier draping him.

    Kobe gets into trouble when he catches the ball at the top of the arc and has to create for himself. The Rocket D is too good to let him get to the hoop. This is when he starts chucking bad shots.

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    I would say in this Rocket series Kobe has had very good shot selection.

    When he takes the MIDRANGE jumper right above the F/T line it's pretty much a layup. This is with all world defender Battier draping him.

    Kobe gets into trouble when he catches the ball at the top of the arc and has to create for himself. The Rocket D is too good to let him get to the hoop. This is when he starts chucking bad shots.
    agree. houston's defense was just pretty tight on kobe. amazing he still shot 47% in this series so far.


    we'll see if he continues...



    i respect kobe and his fire. but he's still a imo.

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    hes good, but lebron is better overall. Anyway, even if he is great, his ness and arrogance makes him the worst of all time.

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    I would say in this Rocket series Kobe has had very good shot selection.

    When he takes the MIDRANGE jumper right above the F/T line it's pretty much a layup. This is with all world defender Battier draping him.

    Kobe gets into trouble when he catches the ball at the top of the arc and has to create for himself. The Rocket D is too good to let him get to the hoop. This is when he starts chucking bad shots.
    I have to agree with you

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    lebron james is the better teammate and leader. in terms of raw+honed skill though, yes Kobe has him beat. D-Wade is very close in the skill dept, however.

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    But roy is better.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    lebron james is the better teammate and leader. in terms of raw+honed skill though, yes Kobe has him beat. D-Wade is very close in the skill dept, however.
    im curious to where the whole "better teammate and leader" arguement comes from. I can understand that when Kobe was trying to do everything himself after Shaq left...i just dont see that Kobe anymore.

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    Kobe is the best player and most skilled, it will be proven in the Finals.

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    im curious to where the whole "better teammate and leader" arguement comes from. I can understand that when Kobe was trying to do everything himself after Shaq left...i just dont see that Kobe anymore.
    LeBron already has at 23, what Kobe took til 29 or 30 to get - and with a lot of bad decisions in the process. In fact, as an 'unbiased' observer, I would say Kobe's bad decision making cost you a le in 2004. Following up, in 08, he just couldn't will a team to victory 'skill-wise' - which is why i said D-Wade (2006 Finals MVP) is very close in terms of raw+honed skill.

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    Skills didn't get him far without Shaq or Gasol.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    LeBron already has at 23, what Kobe took til 29 or 30 to get - and with a lot of bad decisions in the process. In fact, as an 'unbiased' observer, I would say Kobe's bad decision making cost you a le in 2004. Following up, in 08, he just couldn't will a team to victory 'skill-wise' - which is why i said D-Wade (2006 Finals MVP) is very close in terms of raw+honed skill.
    but doesnt the fact that Lebron was given a franchise to lead at 18 in which he had to carry the load right off the bat help in his leadership capaibilities. You have to understand that Kobe was drafted at the 13th spot and came off the bench in a team that was loaded with leaders already. In 2004, he had to share a team thats stacked with franchise players (Malone, Shaq, Payton). When everyone left in 2005, he had to learn from scratch what leadership was. He didnt figure it out till he got humbled when he didnt make the playoffs. Kobe now knows that he was spoiled and i think finally figured out that he has to be a good teammate to win it all.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    Skills didn't get him far without Shaq or Gasol.
    skills wont get you far without a complimentary player. Just like Steve Nash..this guy is skilled like crazy...thats why its kind of wierd that he coudlnt go anywhere with Amare and Marion, and now with Shaq. Thats just total fail and im sure you Suns fans admit it (unless if you're saying that Gasol>Amare+Marion).

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    Skills didn't get him far without Shaq or Gasol.
    No one player (that I can remember) has gone far without another very good player.

    This is still a team game, 5 > 1 most of the time.

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    Get Sarver out!!!! pauls931's Avatar
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    No one player (that I can remember) has gone far without another very good player.

    This is still a team game, 5 > 1 most of the time.
    True, MJ had pippen. Today it seems like the trick is to have the right big man. Right now I think Gasol is probably the 2nd or 3rd best big in the league despite being soft. (I'll put Howard and Duncan ahead of him, not sure about shaq)

    Regarding Marion, I miss him, but it's becoming clear to me his success is directly a result of the Dantoni system. He needs run and gun.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    True, MJ had pippen. Today it seems like the trick is to have the right big man. Right now I think Gasol is probably the 2nd or 3rd best big in the league despite being soft. (I'll put Howard and Duncan ahead of him, not sure about shaq)

    Regarding Marion, I miss him, but it's becoming clear to me his success is directly a result of the Dantoni system. He needs run and gun.
    yah D'antoni's system will definately make anyone look good.

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    If by "Skilled" you mean, "Sucks the meanest , and rapes the whitest women.", then I totally agree.

    Go sodomy!

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    If by "Skilled" you mean, "Sucks the meanest , and rapes the whitest women.", then I totally agree.

    Go sodomy!
    Utah would be a perfect place for Kobe to stay in then.

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    LeBron already has at 23, what Kobe took til 29 or 30 to get - and with a lot of bad decisions in the process. In fact, as an 'unbiased' observer, I would say Kobe's bad decision making cost you a le in 2004. Following up, in 08, he just couldn't will a team to victory 'skill-wise' - which is why i said D-Wade (2006 Finals MVP) is very close in terms of raw+honed skill.
    The only thing that Lebron has won at that age is an MVP, but at that age Kobe already had championships. And yes Kobe has failed in the finals twice but you can't really put all the bourden on him for the 04' lost. Last year you can cause he was supposed to be the leader. So Kobe and lebron have both failed in the Finals.

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    kobe is proving to me he really is a dirty player
    and refs let him get away with it

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