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Bonner = NBA scrub. Mason = playoff scrub. Until proven otherwise.
There's no room for role players in between scrubs and stars? So a guy like Roger Mason is an NBA scrub, as well?
Bonner = NBA scrub. Mason = playoff scrub. Until proven otherwise.
Scalabrine wears a goofy headband to go with his goofy face: FAIL.
Bonner by a red mile. And a bag of Cheetos.
scalabrine saw daylight multiple times that Bonner never experienced once the entire mavs series.
I don't see how you can really compare the two players in the playoffs. Matt Bonner has played in 16 playoff games, only about 5 of which he got decent playing time. Scalabrine has played in 33 playoff games, with about 18 of those getting decent playing time. If Matt Bonner plays in two playoff series next year and fails to contribute, maybe I'll start to agree with you regarding "playoff Bonner." Until then you need to realize that you're coming to conclusions with far too little data to make an intelligent argument.
Doesn't he have to wear that protective headband? I'd take Scalabrine, he doesn't take away from the C's when he's on the court as much as Bonner does on the defensive end...
Bonner's just as goofy looking as Scalabrine....
BUT HIS NON-EXISTENT GAME IS NO JOKE.
Scalabrine taking heads out tonight on game 3
yeah I see scalabrine contributing for the celtics like crazy, and i wish bonner could have done the same for us throughout the playoffs. I just find it so in amazing that kevin garnett is out for the rest of the season including playoffs and they lost leon powe too a torn ACL, yet these celtics still manage to keep playing like le contenders by having bench players step up like glen davis, and in this case, brian scalabrine. I know I'm being harsh on bonner, but at this point in time how scalabrine plays, he shows so much more promise than whatever bonner has to offer.
For the sake of perspective, let's compare Bonner's first real playoff series with another player's first playoff series.
Bonner: 5 games, 100 minutes, 5 of 23 FGs, 3 of 13 3PTs, 16 rebounds (7.7 rebounds per 48 minutes)
Player B: 5 games, 140 minutes, 12 of 36 FGs, 4 of 17 3PTs, 26 rebounds (8.9 rebounds per 48 minutes).
And player B is....
Robert Horry. (1993 playoffs, Rockets over Clippers; http://www.basketball-reference.com/.../NBA_1993.html )
Of course, I'm not saying Matt Bonner is or is going to become Robert Horry. I'm simply saying that it's kind of ridiculous to judge whether a player is a "playoff player" based on one series.
Last edited by lurker23; 05-08-2009 at 07:56 PM.
Those can hit shots all year long (Not really Bonner late though in the regular season) and then when the playoffs begin the shrivel up and miss everything, I can see them both being just like that. I thought Mase was cold this year with his clutch shots, maybe next year he will prove otherwise and get back to playing his true position and get that confidence back and hit shots like he was. I thought he would have a good playoffs and was fit, I was wrong but maybe Pop ruined that at the backup PG?Lets not let him stay here and starting and find that out, oh GOD please just no..... No more shot for that guy, he is horrible and does little and shows not flashes of getting better. Horry atleast was very atlhetic and good on D, Bonner is just a stiff who can shoot threes and not even that as of late. Bonner shall not be judged again, because hopefully he doesn't get out there in the playoffs as our C again, especially not a starter.
If the question was: Who's the most embarassing white big man this post season....I'd have to give the nod to Bonner. I'll give him that much, at least.
Well, even with more playoff games in his CV, Bonner will suck anyway
Yes thats right, why give him the chance here? If he is our starting C next year we are in big trouble again and will lose later on in the playoffs whether Manu is there or not, he is just flat out HORRIBLE! This year is very forgetable IMO, especially the part of this clown starting and getting mins. He doesn't start or play at all last year WCF's, this year he does alot and first round! He is to blame somewhat on that, he is horrible.
Oh thaz cuz he had concussion
I assume this is sarcasm? 44% puts you at #4 on career 3PT% all-time, and in the top 100 seasons in NBA history. In fact, Matt Bonner just had the 90th best 3 point shooting season in the history of the NBA.
Matt bonner is real bad. He might show up in a game or two during the season and he usually does by registering a double double. However he's limited on offensive end and just plain horrible on defence. We'll lose bad if we play this guy as a starter
If this was about 4 months ago Id say Bonner,
But he got super cold and decided not to play defense,
He is also the reason we lost to the mavs...
Now they both look like D-league material
So i'll pass on both.
what a ridiculous thread. i mean who cares? They both are fire crotches who suck. Personally though I don't care about all these numbers you guys are throwing out and all that BS....what matters is bonner is a POS who is worthless in the playoffs...when the only thing you can do is hit open 3's-and you don't make those then your a scrub/worthless/waste of space...and lets not even start on the defensive end.
Give me scalabrine-he at least can make a playoff shot or two, and hustles a little on defense. They both suck though, end of story.
Bonner wasn't even one the floor most of the Mavs series, so it's really wrong to say that he's the reason that we lost. I'm sure it didn't have anything to do with everyone other than Timmy and Tony not showing up to play...
There were droves of idiots blaming Bonner for the losses.
Literally droves of dumbasses, blaming who should be our 5/6th option on offense and defense for the series.
I pretty much only lurk now, infact (i always did, but when all our fans are writing the team off and can't even understand why we're losing..) because of how stupid pretty much everyone was during the first round - including myself, for believing Pop would use the best players in their best roles, not Mason at PG, Hill at 2guard, way too little Gooden, etc.
imo, as a whole, Tim Duncan does not deserve the absolute lack of competence from Popovich and the FO when it comes to certain personnel decisions, FA and trades - they truly blew it this season when they didn't manage to get any help before the deadline. Like any spurfan should, I kept believing even when my intuition told me this team is full of scrubs from #4 option (or finley, whatever you want to call that) down.
Last edited by z0sa; 05-10-2009 at 01:13 PM.
I've seen Scal grab a few rebounds in these playoffs, so I guess I'll take him.
Neither...I'd rather have two LeBron's instead!!!
This is the NBA. Okay, who's gonna give open shots. Bonner is a starting five! And may I add, a starting five for a dynasty team. Find your shots dammit. So what you're off....They're other ways to contribute (i.e. DEFENSE, hussle, etc.) I didn't see any of this from Bonner. When will you guys come to realize that this guy is not NBA material. However, but a complete waste of a 6'10 frame.
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