Warriors, Grizzlies, SPURS Offer Bourousis Contract

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Dude..I already posted that link translated...nowhere in there does it say they offered him a contract. They CAN'T offer a contract right now. It does say they're interested, but the Spurs are interested in a LOT of people..doesn't mean they're going to sign them, or even offer them anything.

I copied it from you dumbass.

[Spursfan092120]

I copied it from you dumbass.

Then why didn't you show credit, prick? Why is it your first resort to insult someone? All I'm saying is that you said they offered him a contract, and you lied...just making sure my fellow Spurs fans know that they didn't.

[GSH]

It comes from Olympiacos official.

Well... sort of an official. It's the guy who sells gyros at all the home games. But he also works in the mail room, and he saw envelopes that he's pretty sure had contracts inside. And the first thing he did was run and tell KillBill, because he knows that he is so well respected over here.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Then why didn't you show credit, prick? All I'm saying is that you said they offered him a contract, and you lied...just making sure my fellow Spurs fans know that they didn't.

Like I say it comes from Olympiacos managers. Once again I was prove right. Press may not know it but yes their have been actual offers.

[Spursfan092120]

Idiot. I report this BEFORE and I tell you links will come soon AFTER press knows it. Like I say it comes from Olympiacos managers. Once again I was prove right. Press may not know it but yes their have been actual contract offers.

No, bag...you're wrong...but we're used to that here...it's normal. They can't offer NBA contracts without permission, and they can't get permission, because there are stipulations against it this time of year. This isn't ing Greece..you can't just go out and offer contracts any time of year that you want to...we actually have rules here, so stop pulling bull out of a hat because the same ing link YOU posted that's supposed to prove you right actually proves you wrong. It says those three teams are interested in him. Spurs are interested in a lot of players..that doesn't mean they're going to be offered contracts.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

No, bag...you're wrong...but we're used to that here...it's normal. They can't offer NBA contracts without permission, and they can't get permission, because there are stipulations against it this time of year. This isn't ing Greece..you can't just go out and offer contracts any time of year that you want to...we actually have rules here, so stop pulling bull out of a hat because the same ing link YOU posted that's supposed to prove you right actually proves you wrong. It says those three teams are interested in him. Spurs are interested in a lot of players..that doesn't mean they're going to be offered contracts.

NBA clubs can offer contracts to foreign players at any time.

[Indazone]

Contract rules for the NBA also include foreign players do they not? This should be an internal NBA rule. If not then, all bets are off. Any team can offer a contract overseas at any time.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Contract rules for the NBA also include foreign players do they not? This should be an internal NBA rule. If not then, all bets are off. Any team can offer a contract overseas at any time.

NBA rules is only for NBA. It has no relation to players in other leagues.

[Spursfan092120]

NBA rules is only for NBA. It has no relation to players in other leagues.

This is the NBA, dude..if a player is being signed by an NBA, they have to be signed defined by the guidelines..Just because a guy is playing in a Euro league right now doesn't mean he can get away without following the rules of the NBA when he's coming to play here...if he's leaving that Euro league to play for the NBA, he has to abide by the NBA rules. The free agency period in the current union agreement starts July 14th...then and only then can a player, foreign or not, be offered an NBA contract. So NO..he HASN'T been offered an NBA contract. So once more...STOP LYING!

[VI_Massive]

This is the NBA, dude..if a player is being signed by an NBA, they have to be signed defined by the guidelines..Just because a guy is playing in a Euro league right now doesn't mean he can get away without following the rules of the NBA when he's coming to play here...if he's leaving that Euro league to play for the NBA, he has to abide by the NBA rules. The free agency period in the current union agreement starts July 14th...then and only then can a player, foreign or not, be offered an NBA contract. So NO..he HASN'T been offered an NBA contract. So once more...STOP LYING!

but if he's not an nba player then he's not a member of that union, right? can you offer a contract to a non-union member before the free agent signing period? i have no idea.

[Spursfan092120]

but if he's not an nba player then he's not a member of that union, right? can you offer a contract to a non-union member before the free agent signing period? i have no idea.

No..because the TEAMS fall under the rules...

[VI_Massive]

No..because the TEAMS fall under the rules...

that's what i figured. if anything is going on with bourousis and spurs or any nba team its just what the article said -- expression of interest and maybe going as far as to say "we will offer you a contract when we can"

[Spursfan092120]

that's what i figured. if anything is going on with bourousis and spurs or any nba team its just what the article said -- expression of interest and maybe going as far as to say "we will offer you a contract when we can"

Exactly...and that may be. But if the NBA finds out they even told him they WILL offer him a contract, they'll get in trouble.

[DAF86]

No..because the TEAMS fall under the rules...

Let's get real. Does somebody trully bealives that if the Spurs want to sign Bourousis and there's the posibility that if they don't make a move now some other team will sign him that Pop and company won't at least go to speak with Bourousis and say: "look we can't offer you a contract now but we want you in our team, we'll pay "X" amount of money for "X" amount of seasons are you interested?"

[Spursfan092120]

Let's get real. Does somebody trully bealives that if the Spurs want to sign Bourousis and there's the posibility that if they don't make a move now some other team will sign him that Pop and company won't at least go to speak with Bourousis and say: "look we can't offer you a contract now but we want you in our team, we'll pay "X" amount of money for "X" amount of seasons are you interested?"

Not really

[VI_Massive]

Let's get real. Does somebody trully bealives that if the Spurs want to sign Bourousis and there's the posibility that if they don't make a move now some other team will sign him that Pop and company won't at least go to speak with Bourousis and say: "look we can't offer you a contract now but we want you in our team, we'll pay "X" amount of money for "X" amount of seasons are you interested?"

Do you trust some guy you don't know who has an inner circle of advisers you don't know with information that could cost you a serious penalty with the league? I don't know enough about how things really work to know the answer.

But, Joe Smith?

[DAF86]

Exactly...and that may be. But if the NBA finds out they even told him they WILL offer him a contract, they'll get in trouble.

And how can they possibly find out? there'll be no signed papers, no recorded conversations, etc.
I'm pretty sure that every NBA team pulls these kind of stunts every year.

[Spursfan092120]

And how can they possibly find out? there'll be no signed papers, no recorded conversations, etc.
I'm pretty sure that every NBA team pulls these kind of stunts every year.

I'm sure...I'm just saying if they WERE to find out, they'd get in trouble.

[VI_Massive]

And how can they possibly find out? there'll be no signed papers, no recorded conversations, etc.
I'm pretty sure that every NBA team pulls these kind of stunts every year.

Who knows? I don't think any of us know enough about the nitty gritty to opine knowledgeably on this.

[DAF86]

Do you trust some guy you don't know who has an inner circle of advisers you don't know with information that could cost you a serious penalty with the league? I don't know enough about how things really work to know the answer.

But, Joe Smith?

You obviously won't do something like this in front of a lot of people, just the player you want to sign and his manager, and they wouldn't say anything 'cause it wouldn't be beneficial for them.

P/S: I don't remember Joe Smith's case, what happened then?

[VI_Massive]

You obviously won't do something like this in front of a lot of people, just the player you want to sign and his manager, and they wouldn't say anything 'cause it wouldn't be beneficial for them.

P/S: I don't remember Joe Smith's case, what happened then?

It wasn't exactly the same thing, but Minny got caught offering Smith something lower with the promise of something higher later and it cost them big time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/09/sp...penalties.html

definitely not the same thing, but shows that you can get caught messing with the contract rules.

[DAF86]

It wasn't exactly the same thing, but Minny got caught offering Smith something lower with the promise of something higher later and it cost them big time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/09/sp...penalties.html

definitely not the same thing, but shows that you can get caught messing with the contract rules.

It also shows you that NBA team do mess with the contract rules.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

New report from Greece is Spurs and Miami Heat want Bourousis very badly.

http://www.basketblog.gr/index.php?o...295&Itemid=199

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate...rUrl=Translate

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

but if he's not an nba player then he's not a member of that union, right? can you offer a contract to a non-union member before the free agent signing period? i have no idea.

Yes they can talk with him about it. They can say they want him.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

KBP, if this Euro scrub doesn't sign with an NBA team this off-season, will you never post here again?

If you're so confident that he will, put your money where your mouth is and post, "I will never post on ST again if Ioannis Bourousis doesn't sign with an NBA team."