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His shoulders are one of a kind.
I'm talking offensive moves bro.
His shoulders are one of a kind.
Just for the record, it was:
21 points
20 boards
10 assists
8 blocks
Can really argue with you about Duncan can i?Just for the record, it was:
21 points
20 boards
10 assists
8 blocks
Monster rebounder. Monster shot-blocker. No discernible offensive skills whatsoever. No range outside dunking range. Spotty free-throw shooter. Not a particularly good passer (an underrated facet of Shaq's game.) He doesn't even have a reliable baby hook.
Dwight Howard = Steve Urkel on steroids
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Dwight Howard is not an elite big man. He's about as dominant as Raef Lafrentz. And let's not forget that Howard sucks ass when it comes to making free throws. I know that Duncan isn't the best free throw shooter but he's decent and can make them when the game is on the line. Shaq has never been a good free throw shooter but he's been known to make them when they're needed the most.
At this point, I would trade Yao for Dwight Howard.
Very good. Still very unskilled.
you would probably have to settle for elton brand and a first rounder
We got standards over here.
So does Orlando and probably every other team who would rather have a player that doesn't break down every ing season.
Wake us up when Yao actually plays a whole NBA season.
this guy had no low posts game or a good jumper
all he does its reb and block shots.....
He has a couple more off-seasons for him to become a much more skilled offensive player.
No. He's talented, and a top 5 center--top 2 center--but he's not elite at all in the big picture. He's merely an exceptional rebounder, good blocker, and a good dunker.
When I think of elite big men I think of impact players that warp the whole scheme of the game/series, the Coaches game plan. Dwight is still way below a young Tim Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem and young David Robinson.
Even Yao Ming was able to change the series and neutralize the Laker Frontline for the first three games.
Dwight Howard hasn't had that same effect on the Celtics, Big Baby, and Perkins, don't really notice Howard
Dwight Howard to me is about a little bit better than Amare because he's perfected his rebounding and is possibly smarter than him. Even though Amare's offensive repertoire is vastly better than Dwight's.
He's still young so he can still get better but he's not yet elite like the Bigs who've come before him.
Howard is as elite as they come.
I don't put any stock into 'roll player' arguments. Offensive players can be role players too, and they don't dominate a game. Howard is a rebounding machine. Whether or not his blocks are goal tends, he gets the call (sign of a star) and gets the block. He could certainly get better, but he is already a force to be reckoned with.
I don't buy the 'he is a power forward' argument either. Tim Duncan is a center who plays out of position at the PF. What I look for in a center is someone who can dunk the ball when given a good pass in the post. I look for him to defend the paint, and get the board. I look for my PF/SF to score in the paint. That is how the NBA is now, and D-Howard excels at doing what I outlined what a center should do.
He needs a dependable PF, or a better PG to go with his current squad. I think the Magic would be a better team with Jameer and Rafer both healthy, with Rafer in the reserve role. He could actually not hurt too bad by being the 'defensive' one and Jameer being the 'offensive' one.
1 or 2 more solid defensive SF would seal it for the Magic.
Actually, in high school, and in his four years he played mostly as power forward, averaging 16.6 points per game (ppg), 13.4 rebounds per game (rpg) and 6.3 blocks per game in 129 appearances.
Such a nice guy but is a fan of Kevin Garnett, taking the number 12 as it was the reverse of Garnett's when he was in Minnesota.
howard is a kid and obviously has the tools to improve, but....
a) has no post game. at all. you cant run an offense through him. he has an elite body but not elite skills.
b) gets frustrated and makes bad decisions. someone was comparing him to amare... he has better character than amare, but is just as dumb bball iq wise.
because of a), the magic offense is to chuck 3's and let howard and gortat (also a good rebounder) to clean up the misses. that means he gets obscene rebounding numbers and scores from putbacks with high FG%. his stats look great. but he didnt get them from dominating the game, he got them from the magic's garbage system. if he doesnt improve, he will be like nash- great numbers and looks like they are having a great game, but not dominating the game the way an elite legend type would.
now, would i take him on my team? of course. but if you are going to compare him with duncan, shaq, KAJ, olajuwon, etc... he is not even close skills wise.
IŽd take him, with shaq at the end of his career and duncan on the decline, with proper training dwight should be unstoppable. All heŽd have to worry about is the off chance that Oden might be healthy.
Dwight Howard is overrated, he is not the type of big man that you can throw the ball to when your team needs a bucket. The Magic rarely go to Dwight down in the post in late game situations, its always Hedo or Lewis with the ball. He has little to no post moves. At least Shaq had an array of moves.....Not saying Dwight cant learn those type moves bc he is still very young but as of now the man has been overrated based on his dunk contests
Watching shaq he has three moves.
1. should to defender, then dunk, now days a layin.
2. baseline fadeaway
3. spin and dunk
Watchiing howard he has two moves
1. muscle defender, dunk
2. a ty hook shot.
However, IŽd still take him in a heartbeat, he can learn. Shaq took a while to develop his arsenal, he was all dunks his first few seasons too.
This Celtics series is the first time I've bothered to pay attention to him and I'm surprised how raw and clumsy he is.
Howard is elite, but in a different way. He may not be an elite scorer right now, but hes a damn good defender, the best rebounder in the league, and keeps opponents out of the paint. He is a lot more like KG... great hustle player, does dirty/clean-up work. KG developed a decent offensive skill-set, but still isn't really a great offensive player... gets a lot of his points on clean-up work, much like Dwight. That style of play led to KG winning an MVP award.
I'd say Dwight is definitely an elite big-man, that still has more room for growth. If he can develop a consistent 15-18 foot jumper, the way guys like KG and Amare had... and learn how to pass out better, he will be pretty damn scary.
The guy is still developing his game, and is not even close to the prime of his career. The NBA game has become guard-oriented, and the fact that Orlando relies way too much on three point shooting doesnt help him either. He has great numbers, but lacks the skills, and dominance to be considered an Elite big man
I'd take him over Bonner
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