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    So you're saying that the Spurs deliberately choosing him in the 2nd round instead of the first as they told him they would (since his contract back then had a clause that if he was selected as a first round pick he could have left without paying anything) wasn't ALSO the trigger to the start of a bad relationship? come on whottt this is not ALL because of him and the Spurs FO is not perfect...

    The Spurs FO is a of a lot closer to being perfect than Luis Scola is.

    Newsflash: players don't get to pick when they are drafted, teams do, why Luis Scola thinks he should be the only player in the history of sports this rule doesn't apply to...is beyond me, but it's a big reason despise him, and his stupid fans that agree he deserved special treatment.


    Get this...it was mandatory that Scola enter the draft when he did. He had no choice in the matter..his name was going into the draft pool.


    They're called the rules...look em up sometime Scola Fans.


    PS: You can't a be a Scola fan and a Spur fan any longer...it's like being a fan of Israel and the Palestinians..


    Make your choice. Get off the ing fence, there is nothing but hatred here and it is time to pick your side.

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    The Spurs FO is a of a lot closer to being perfect than Luis Scola is.

    Newsflash: players don't get to pick when they are drafted, teams do, why Luis Scola thinks he should be the only player in the history of sports this rule doesn't apply to...is beyond me, but it's a big reason despise him, and his stupid fans that agree he deserved special treatment.


    Get this...it was mandatory that Scola enter the draft when he did. He had no choice in the matter..his name was going into the draft pool.


    They're called the rules...look em up sometime Scola Fans.


    PS: You can't a be a Scola fan and a Spur fan any longer...it's like being a fan of Israel and the Palestinians..


    Make your choice. Get off the ing fence, there is nothing but hatred here and it is time to pick your side.
    I'm a Spurs fan since 1995 and that doesn't take away that i started liking Scola as a player since the WC in 2002...

    So before all this happened I was rooting for both sides independently... You dont own the rule book of what it takes to be a Spur fan or not...

    It has been shown to you on several occasions that he is not entirely responsible of what happened neither is the Spurs FO... at least you'll have to admit that...

    PS: thank god you don't have mod rights because if you were to ban all Scola supporters that are still Spurs fans on this board it'd be as boring as the Thunder's one... there's a bunch of people out there and not all have such an extreme take or think its a requirement to be or not to be a Spurs fan...

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    It has been shown to you on several occasions that he is not entirely responsible of what happened neither is the Spurs FO... at least you'll have to admit that...

    I think Scola is 100% the reason he is not a Spur. 100%. Totally 100%. I don't think there's any doubt about it. I think Scola is also 100% the reason he signed a ty contract with the Tau.

    And you know what...I don't see anything to indicate Scola got the better of this deal either. Everyone is always talking like the Spurs made this huge up and Scola is sure showing us...

    What is he showing us? That he can put up numbers on a Rick Adelman team? That he can make the second round?


    If considering that a victory is what it now means to be a Spurfan...then we are truly pathetic.

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    I think Scola is 100% the reason he is not a Spur. 100%. Totally 100%. I don't think there's any doubt about it. I think Scola is also 100% the reason he signed a ty contract with the Tau.
    I'd say 50-50... IF and only IF the Spurs INDEED told him he'd be selected by them on the first round... if that is BS... 80-20 Scola's fault...

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    I'd say 50-50... IF and only IF the Spurs INDEED told him he'd be selected by them on the first round... if that is BS... 80-20 Scola's fault...
    Why would they have to tell him that? What was he going to do if they didn't tell him that?

    Not enter the draft?

    He had no choice in the matter.

    It was mandatory that he enter the draft. He had no choice in the matter. He had no say...he had no leverage.

    Period.

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    Furthermore...the 1 round pick that year was John Salmons who was traded to Philadelphia to aquire Speedy Claxton who was the back up PG on that NBA championship team. So if the Spurs did change their mind(and I cannot see any scenario in which they would have gained something from making such a promise to Scola)...I'm glad they did, because it won them a le, and we didn't need a PF that year back up or otherwise.

    Winning a Spurs le always >>>> Scola....

    Do you understand this Scola fans?

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    Why would they have to tell him that? What was he going to do if they didn't tell him that?

    Not enter the draft?

    He had no choice in the matter.

    It was mandatory that he enter the draft. He had no choice in the matter. He had no say...he had no leverage.

    Period.
    Period?

    R u kidding me?

    What about after an awesome 2002 WC they go and talk to him and tell him: "We won't let you slip to the second round. We're aware that your contract sets you free at any time if picked on the first round that's why we'll choose you there." Doing it in the second was WAY WORSE than not selecting him at all.

    Yes he was due to enter because of age even without his consensus but there were lots of talks before the draft and what i cited i understand is what Luis camp said.

    If he wasn't drafted at all it may have given him more chances of making it tot he NBA earlier once his old contract expired.

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    Winning a Spurs le always >>>> Scola....
    Your first intelligent post in the whole thread...

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    Your first intelligent post in the whole thread...
    Cool....I'll let you know when I finally see an intelligent one from you.

    Hint: It'll begin like this: Scol

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    PS: You can't a be a Scola fan and a Spur fan any longer...it's like being a fan of Israel and the Palestinians..


    Make your choice. Get off the ing fence, there is nothing but hatred here and it is time to pick your side.
    whottt has spoken!!!

    pfff...

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    Period?

    R u kidding me?

    What about after an awesome 2002 WC they go and talk to him and tell him: "We won't let you slip to the second round. We're aware that your contract sets you free at any time if picked on the first round that's why we'll choose you there." Doing it in the second was WAY WORSE than not selecting him at all.
    Not for the Spurs it wasn't...if they hadn't selected him he still wouldn't be a Spur and we'd have had to eat JButt's contract.

    That's a gain for the Spurs...drafting him when they did.

    I'm sorry...I wipe my ass with Scola's POV on this...I am a Spurfan, and see only theirs on this issue.


    If you want to talk about the ignorance of signing the suck known as Finley and trading a #1 pick for the suck known as KT, we'll commiserate, other than that...I see we've won 3 NBA les since drafting Scola, who gives a if he didn't like it?



    Yes he was due to enter because of age even without his consensus but there were lots of talks before the draft and what i cited i understand is what Luis camp said.

    If he wasn't drafted at all it may have given him more chances of making it tot he NBA earlier once his old contract expired.
    It doesn't matter...if his name is in the draft he can picked by any team, whether he likes it or not...just like every other ing player in NBA history.

    Goddamn, Portland fans haven't whine this much since passing over Michael Jordan...and the dudes a choking ing scrub who hasn't won jack when he wasn't attatched to Manu Ginobili's nuts.

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    Not for the Spurs it wasn't...if they hadn't selected him he still wouldn't be a Spur and we'd have had to eat JButt's contract.

    That's a gain for the Spurs...drafting him when they did.

    I'm sorry...I wipe my ass with Scola's POV on this...I am a Spurfan, and see only theirs on this issue.
    get over it already... if he wasn;t selected at all his chances of becoming a Spur were WAY better

    If you want to talk about the ignorance of signing the suck known as Finley and trading a #1 pick for the suck known as KT, we'll commiserate, other than that...I see we've won 3 NBA les since drafting Scola, who gives a if he didn't like it?
    b Barry thread? that's all you got?


    It doesn't matter...if his name is in the draft he can picked by any team, whether he likes it or not...just like every other ing player in NBA history.
    If the Spurs wouldn't have spoken with him, this would be logical... it wasn;t the case... and I think that the Spurs FO knowing how wrong that was was the reason why they didn't let him rot in Europe... also not to pay any more additional bad karma because of it...

    Goddamn, Portland fans haven't whine this much since passing over Michael Jordan...and the dudes a choking ing scrub who hasn't won jack when he wasn't attatched to Manu Ginobili's nuts.
    at the failure missing all what he won with TAU that was all sans Manu...

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    whottt has spoken!!!

    pfff...
    You bet I did.

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    get over it already... if he wasn;t selected at all his chances of becoming a Spur were WAY better
    No they weren't.




    If the Spurs wouldn't have spoken with him, this would be logical... it wasn;t the case... and I think that the Spurs FO knowing how wrong that was was the reason why they didn't let him rot in Europe... also not to pay any more additional bad karma because of it...
    Spurs have 3 championships...what's Scola got so far? Euorleague Finals choke? 1st round playoffs exit and second round appearance?

    Karma indeed.

    Let's let karma be the judge...

    and I am still waiting for whatever reason you could contrive that the Spurs would tell Scola that?

    Why would they tell him that? Why would they have to?

    They wouldn't.



    at the failure missing all what he won with TAU that was all sans Manu...
    Oh my god are you really this pathetic?


    Well whoop de ing do...Matt Bonner's got a southwest championship banner...that's like, 100 times the Euroleague accomplishments of Scola.

    In fact he got it over Scola...


    ing pathetic. Seriously...you guys are so stupid I at the point of hoping the Spurs trade Manu and Oberto...just to be rid of you...

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    No they weren't.
    You're on Denial 1-0 Ur-no

    Spurs have 3 championships...what's Scola got so far? Euorleague Finals choke?
    NBA le more than Spanish Cup 1-1

    Choking at the draft since he was chosen (so far so good only Hill looks promising, Mahimni could make me eat this post though <fingers closed>... Karma indeed... 2-1

    Oh my god are you really this pathetic?
    Mirror theory applied?

    Well whoop de ing do...Matt Bonner's got a southwest championship banner...that's like, 100 times the Euroleague accomplishments of Scola.
    Matt Bonner also has a an NBA championship and (i really didn't want to say this because it hurts me but you've been asking for it like 10 posts ago) is currently fishing while Scola is still grabbing some rebounds in the playoffs...

    and you're underestimating ACB's league accomplishments with your post... you should be smarter than that...

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    You're on Denial 1-0 Ur-no

    NBA le more than Spanish Cup 1-1
    the Spanish Cup...winning a Southwet Division Banner is harder.








    Matt Bonner also has a an NBA championship and (i really didn't want to say this because it hurts me but you've been asking for it like 10 posts ago)
    I was just going by the last 2 years....you know since Scola took over the NBA.

    I mean if winning a Spanish league le is such an accomplishment and the Southwest isn't , then why can't Scola win one?


    ALways seems to be looking up at the Spurs in the standings at seasons end if you know what I mean.


    is currently fishing while Scola is still grabbing some rebounds in the playoffs...
    Pathetic.


    and you're underestimating ACB's league accomplishments with your post... you should be smarter than that...
    Southwest Division is obviously tougher to pull off...and if it isn't then why hasn't Scola done it?

    Bonner has...as a starter.

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    Bonner has...as a starter.
    So Matt Bonner is all you got to male us all understand that if you like Luis Scola's game you can;t be a Spurs fan?



    That's unwhottt like... kinda weak i would say...

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    So Matt Bonner is all you got to male us all understand that if you like Luis Scola's game you can;t be a Spurs fan?



    That's unwhottt like... kinda weak i would say...
    No...it's just like I said, you guys more about Scola than Blazer Fans do about passing over Jordan or LakerFans do about trading Shaq...

    Way out of whack, by putting him in a comparions with Bonner...I'm just keeping it real and based in reality. Because that's about the level of player Scola is, and that's how out of whack the ing about trading him is...and that's without taking into account that Scola probably didn't want to play for the Spurs anyway.

    In short...Scola is a scrub and not even one capable of making a difference in a championship like Mario Elie and Steve Kerr were.

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    Just do a simple numbers comparison to see who is the better Laker killer, Scola or Bonner.

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    THe bias is all yours...before you guys got here with your ed up regional rooting interests...I used to defend Manu Ginobili, I have no inherent bias aginst players from your region of the world...you OTOH, have a total bias in facor of them.

    Fact.
    Truth.
    100% real.

    That is the reality of this conflct...you poor, hopelessly deluded and in deinal Scola fans.

    PS: Do not confuse the fact that certain real SpurFans like timvp and MB join you in ing about Scola...they are the grass is greener herd, and would sign a wifebeater or a dogmurderer if they'd ever put up 10ppg in the NBA.

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    Do you think that Bonner has had a better playoffs than Scola? I am not saying Scola would have reversed the tide of this years playoffs, but he would have helped more than Bonner.

    But you are saying who cares, bc neither would have won a le for the Spurs.

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    Do you think that Bonner has had a better playoffs than Scola? I am not saying Scola would have reversed the tide of this years playoffs, but he would have helped more than Bonner.
    We'll see...

    Adelman is notoriously tough as an underdog...I think it has little or nothing to do with Scola.

    If you were a Spurfan in 2006 you might know a great example of what I'm talking about.

    Furthermore, he's easy to underestimate.

    He's also a choker, whereas Phil Jackson is not...a point which will be hammered home over the next few games I suspect.


    But you are saying who cares, bc neither would have won a le for the Spurs.

    Right...if you guys want to be outraged, you should be outraged about signing pieces of like Findog and KT...these guys are le kryptonite.

    I like Scola better than them....

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    Hey look, a Scola thread!

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    We'll see...

    Adelman is notoriously tough as an underdog...I think it has little or nothing to do with Scola.

    If you were a Spurfan in 2006 you might know a great example of what I'm talking about.

    Furthermore, he's easy to underestimate.






    Right...if you guys want to be outraged, you should be outraged about signing pieces of like Findog and KT...these guys are le kryptonite.

    I like Scola better than them....
    Why should Spurs fans be outraged at signing Finley. The Spurs won a le with Finley. Spurs winning les>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything else.

    Look at the numbers between Scola and Bonner and see who has had a better playoffs. It is not abstract and there is no wait and see. The numbers are there.

    If Scola indeed is having a better playoffs than Bonner, and they make the same money, wouldn't you rather have him, even though the Spurs might not win a le with either?

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    Also is it choking if the Rockets lose without Yao and T-Mac and as the worse seed without HC advantage or is that reality?

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