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    Would you rather have Scola or Bonner next year?

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    This is like asking me would I rather have the syphillis or gonorhea...


    The question that will get you the response you want is would I rather have Drew Gooden, Kurt Thomas or Scola...

    What I want is a Tim Duncan that draws double teams and a Manu with good ankles...Bonner nor Scola make no difference in us winning a le.

    It's just that simple.



    And one other thing...you guys need to ream the stupidity of every other team in the NBA that could have had Scola that didn't want to give up anything for him...some of them, he would have helped improve their teams significantly. He didn't really do that for the Rockets, he wouldn't have done it for hte Spurs...but a team like the Bulls or Cavs that has no offensive interior presence he could have helped.

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    So you are saying the Spurs knew that T-Mac would hurt the team while playing, and that Yao would be hurt and therefor the Rockets would not have enough to win, so they could trade them Scola?
    They knew TMac and Yao are both injury prone, that TMac isn't built for the playoffs, that TMac and Adelman are mentally weak, and that Scola fell short when it mattered most in Europe exhibiting a similar type of mental weakness, and they also knew he wasn't as good of a defender as Oberto, all of which are true. They also knew that in two years he was going to be pushing 30.

    That's exactly what they knew...it was pretty obvious.


    You still did not answer the question: If the Spurs FO and the Rockets FO knew that Yao would get hurt and that losing T-Mac would help, is it a choke job if the Rockets do not beat the Lakers?
    Depends on the situation...normally I'd say no it's not a choke...however, if the series is tied or the Rockets get the upperhand at any point in the series(a late series lead) then yes it will be pretty much a choke. At best it'll be a case of being unclutch....but barring that, I'd say it's just another case of the point being hammered home that Scola isn't truly a difference maker...
    in direct contrast to the point made by the inordinate amount of ing and whining done by his fans.

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    Someday Scola will be one of the top PF in the league and whottt will still be on denial.

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    I really don't understand how is still possible to say that the Scola trade was a bad one...or that he could not have been useful for our team.
    he could have been useful in all sort of ways....at least as a trade bait.
    But taking in count the argentine connection...I don't yhink he could have been unsuccesful in our team.
    That's probably been a bad mistake from our F.O. .
    I say probably 'cause :
    1° we still don't know if drafting Splitter was part or not of the trade;
    2° we still don't know isf Splitter we'll be able to do better in the league thán Scola;
    3° we stil don't know if he had, anyway, such a bad taste because of the spurs behavior so strong that he did't want to sign with us in any sort of way.

    Apart all this, it was obvious that having drafted Scola with that number was a lucky event.
    What was not obvious was that at a certain moment in time having drafted him like a 2^ choice instead that like a 1^ choice was a blessing...

    I really didn't understood the trade and I wrote it at that time...a player with that kind of international experience and internatiol success was a given, no sort of doubt allowed.
    But, considering all the variables I said before...the F.O. choice could also have been the only one possible.

    The only point I know for sure is : no way Elson or Butler could have been better than him in any way...in any time.
    So, having the chance to really sign him and prefer to abort it just 'cause of salary cap issues or 'cause of the thinking that Butler and Elson (or only Butler) could have been better it's simply a big and clear mistake.

    That said, let's go on and try to find some other wonderful player or "diamond in the rough" for next season...keeping in mind, in case, that anybody, at any time, can make mistakes...and you just have to live with them.

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    3° we stil don't know if he had, anyway, such a bad taste because of the spurs behavior so strong that he did't want to sign with us in any sort of way.
    We do know that regardless of the emails, he was willing to sign and come over. At least his agent and Scola himself said a bunch of times (this is the summer we signed Oberto) the Spurs kept on stalling contract talks, to the point that eventually he had to choose between signing an extension with his euro club (which he eventually did) or keep on waiting for the Spurs to show up with a deal.

    That said, let's go on and try to find some other wonderful player or "diamond in the rough" for next season...keeping in mind, in case, that anybody, at any time, can make mistakes...and you just have to live with them.
    I agree Scola is water under the bridge at this point.

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    Someday Scola will be one of the top PF in the league and whottt will still be on denial.
    That day is today.

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    You mean posters from all over the world are following the Spurs due to a player from their homeland playing for the Spurs...


    Seen it many times...when we had a Turkish player we had this dude from Turkey...

    ed about how badly the Spurs screwed up, mistreated his player, dropped the ball etc...when the Turkish player was gone so was he.

    Slovenians used to roam free on this board when we had two Slovenians...now, maybe only 1 or 2 remain...


    No one is fooled by this act, it's been seen before many times.


    Sure not all the fans will be that way, just the majority of them....and primarily the ones ing the loudest about the Spurs dropping the ball with Scola.

    OK, so it's the "alien citizens" you are targetting.
    The argies in this case.

    Well, I am not a turk, nor a slovenian, nor an Argie, nor a French.
    I am not an american, for that matter.

    I just happen to know basketball a bit.
    I made predictions (Resigning Oberto and trading Scola makes no sense whatsoever) and that prediction turns out to be right.

    That was a particularly easy to make actually.

    As simple as that.

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    trading Scola makes no sense whatsoever)
    Unless Scola was refusing to play for the Spurs and threatening to walk, and what the Spurs did was the best they could get for him...and then it makes total sense, especially to a team built around TMac and Yao.

    Like I said, he's an asshole and had been since the night we drafted him. He's also over-rated horribly by this board and his fans.

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    Top PF in the league
    it's comments like this that prove you guys are idiots.

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    Get a life, man.

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    Get a life, man.
    Go yourself, .

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    Scola > Bonner, Mahinmi, Oberto, Thomas


    This is fact. Anyone that is deny that has issues.

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    Scola > Bonner, Mahinmi, Oberto, Thomas


    This is fact. Anyone that is deny that has issues.
    He's above those 4 as far as production goes.
    Oberto and Thomas are old so that's a given.
    Bonner.. well.. Don't get me started on him.

    Ian is unproven, kinda like that garbage post you keep cluttering up in the forums with all that trash from the euro league, that you say is "that" great.
    By you saying that, is sorta like you saying that you make your very own player profiles for European prospects.
    Stop copying and pasting sir.

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    Just think, without Scola the Rockets might have lost by 50 tonight.


    I'd talk more but frankly after reading the LakerFans comments in the NBA forum I can't stand the idea of the Lakers winning and creating more of them. I knew that was going to happen.

    While Scola bandwagon fan might be the second stupidest fan there is, LakerFan bandwagon fan is worse.

    In view of all this, I will take a moratorium on Scola bashing for the duration of these playoffs(not that Scola fans don't deserve their noses rubbed in it 50 times a week for the next 3 years after every bad game) as it is impossible for the Lakers winning to be anything other than a time of mourning.

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    The Spurs FO is a of a lot closer to being perfect than Luis Scola is.

    Newsflash: players don't get to pick when they are drafted, teams do, why Luis Scola thinks he should be the only player in the history of sports this rule doesn't apply to...is beyond me, but it's a big reason despise him, and his stupid fans that agree he deserved special treatment.


    Get this...it was mandatory that Scola enter the draft when he did. He had no choice in the matter..his name was going into the draft pool.


    They're called the rules...look em up sometime Scola Fans.


    PS: You can't a be a Scola fan and a Spur fan any longer...it's like being a fan of Israel and the Palestinians..


    Make your choice. Get off the ing fence, there is nothing but hatred here and it is time to pick your side.
    I hate the bag. Getting close to feeling the same about Splitter too.

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    Get a life, man.

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    Scola > Bonner, Mahinmi, Oberto, Thomas


    This is fact. Anyone that is deny that has issues.
    True...but the guy is an asshole that didn't want to play in this organization..oh..and by the way..IMO Gooden > Scola

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    True...but the guy is an asshole that didn't want to play in this organization..oh..and by the way..IMO Gooden > Scola
    No Scola is also > Gooden

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    No Scola is also > Gooden
    I guess you missed the part where I said IMO.

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    True...but the guy is an asshole that didn't want to play in this organization..oh..and by the way..IMO Gooden > Scola

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