What a moron.Sanders' postseason performance supports the notion that he was a product of the cozy, climate-controlled Silverdome. Nice carpet for easy, stop-on-a-dime maneuvering. Seventy-two degrees. Detroit faithful keeping the defensive line off balance with high decibel support.
What about Barry's college records? Still the all-time rusher
oh, and about Emmit Smith
I saw many plays, replays, and do entaries about the Cowboys during his era
and John madden said it best :
"Look at those holes that the Cowboys linemen made for Emmit on this play - that's not a hole, that's a highway!"
Barry had to work hard.
Yeah, he is the all-time rusher for a single season. Ron Dayne has the most yards for a college career. There is no telling how many more yards Barry would have had if he didn't back up Thurman Thomas in college.
there is no telling what Barry would have gotten if he played for the Cowboys instead of the ty Lions
the LIONS SUCKED. Barry WAS the Lions. Defenses would stack the line and wait for Barry.
The reason Barry lost yardage, is because HE HAD NO CHOICE. The line sucked so bad, many times you see Barry already about to be tackled as soon as he got the handoff from the QB. So Barry could either get tackled, or gamble and be BARRY SANDERS and try to break free. It worked for 15,000+ yards.
Barry would NEVER had gained so many yards if he had not run his style. His biggest plays and highlights, a big bulk of his touchdowns are a product of BARRY SANDERS talent and not the offensive line. They sucked. Many times in the highlights, you see the O-line crumble and Barry left to juke and run around BEHIND the line of scrimmage just to even get free, before he breaks and pops a 60 yd td run.
(I know Barry retired at 31 years old just before passing Walter Payton and that Emmitt took the record eventually, but Emmitt can suck my . Emmitt played for a LOT LONGER than Barry did. Barry is the all-time leading rusher IMO)
I used to love Emmitt, but never more than Barry
as I have gotten older, my respect for Barry has grown more and more.
oh, and the Lions O-line benefited from Barry's running style. They got credit for the many yards and TD runs Barry got for himself while they were on their ass getting beat. Some of them even made it to the pro-bowl. lawl
I always hate this debate because it usually requires that the Sanders fans trash Emmitt Smith. You can't argue with what he accomplished, and everything else is ifs and buts. I just hope the Lions can get good someday so their fans can stop living in the ing past.
Bruh, check out this thread right here, and tell me if you still feel the same way. Sorry it's so long, but I covered every aspect of this debate that I possibly could.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126143
That's what made me post my new thread. Check it out.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126143
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Plus there can not be a objective view because of too many variables. Most Detroit fans will vote Barry, most Dallas fans will vote Emmitt, most Chicago fans will choose Payton, most Browns fans will choose Jim Brown. All of them will do so solely because of their allegiance to their team. The haters of each will vote against a player solely because of their dislike for that player team.
IMO, debates like this are pointless because nothing can be accomplished.
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I saw Sanders run once live at Cowboy Stadium on a Monday Night Football when the Lions wore the throw back jerseys and let me say this...... That mother er was AWESOME to see. Best player I have ever seen in my life run a ball. He was actaully worth the money to see live. That guy did some crazy you couldn't see on TV and believe me I rather watch a football game on TV. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw that game and he was impressive.
I was a sop re in college and we all had our dads up to our apartment that night as well as the regular college randoms for an impromptu party. Went through a few kegs, many wings and one two many bongs. IIRC Smith had a good game as well. Mitc , not so much.
Why did this thread get bumped? I see it spawned another thread that's disguised as a comparison.
Because Thomas82 was bored.
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Swap Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders and Barry holds nearly every rushing record in the books in my opinion with a few rings on his fingers. I'm not taking anything away from Emmitt Smith. The guy was greatness personified. But Barry Sanders was always the first and sometimes the only focus for opposing defenders. Defending Dallas meant defending Smith, Aikman, Irvin, Harper and Moose. Emmitt was one great piece to a great group of players on the Cowboys' offense. Not to mention Barry probably wouldn't have retired so young had he been with a more successful franchise.
And yes, part of it is my bias as a Lions fan, I'll admit it.
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I agree for the most part, but as a lifelong Cowboys fan, I have no problem accepting that Brown is far and away number one, and Sweetness is far and away number two. Nobody has to try to discredit anything anyone else did in order to point out their greatness. Walter played on some terrible teams too.
As one as well, I agree with your rankings. I just know that homerism and haterism run rampant through these debates.
Whatever man!!Because Thomas82 was bored.
Barry retired at 31. He played only 10 seasons in the NFL. 10 Pro Bowl selections.
Emmitt played 15 seasons. Emmitt only 8 Pro Bowls in 15 years. Barry was 10 for 10.
Emmitt played -5- more seasons than Barry. EVEN WITH BARRY'S NEGATIVE YARDAGE. EVEN WITH THE LIONS O-LINE COMPARED TO THE COWBOYS O-LINE.
This is not even a debate. Barry is the best back of all time.
Emmitt's "All time leading rusher" le is for show only. We all know Barry is the real le holder.
That is your opinion and therefore not a fact as you are implying. Actually he is not the real le holder because he doesn't have as many yards. Just because you don't like the current le holder doesn't give you any power to change a fact. The only fact in this whole debate is that Emmitt has more yards than anyone else so that makes him the all-time leading rusher. Does that alone make him better? No. If Barry plays longer and stays healthy does he set the record? I believe he does.
Relax junior...I was having fun. Hence the
Uh, that's not exactly objective. If you stack up Smith's best 10 years against Sanders' career, then Barry has the edge in most notable categories except TDs and trophies. It just happens that those two carry enough weight to even the discrepancies in the other numbers out.
As for the short yardage/TD angle, Barry wasn't taken out because he performed his job poorly rather Fontes took him out to preserve him. Barry had no problem finding the end zone from short yardage situations early on in his career. If you look at the stats, you can clearly tell when the change was made.
Just call it a push and be done with it.
Stafford >>> Romo
Kevin Smith >>> Felix Jones?
Stafford >>> Romo
Cowboys Cheerleaders (playing football) >>>>>>> Detroit Lions football team
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