http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJF5cUWXA_A
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I hope he sees some recompense after this, and that every member of that BP is fired.
wow... pretty ed up.
while it's true that a dog doesn't count as a search and gives police probable cause to search... it also has to react in the first place. sounds like they were pulling the "dog sniffed something" outta their ass because they know that's all they really need to make a search. gross abuse of power.
this guy is gonna make his church a lot of money... and get a few hole cops fired in the process.
good.
Meh. He seems like an emo who was hoping something like this would happen. Some cops obviously went too far but that's basically what I expect would happen if you pull that emo stunt at a border check point.
Emo stunt = hoping to have cons utional rights upheld.
If everyone did that in every situation, society would grind to a halt. I could only imagine what would happen if Jose, Juan and Barea drove up to the border check point and refused to answer questions or get out of the car.
Emo stunt = hoping to have cons utional rights upheld.
If he would have answered questions but refused the search, that's one thing. But to go total emo and aim for a YouTube hit is totally different.
Yeah, YouTube decided to initiate maintenance due to this video.
Well whatever the difference of opinion may be, it's good he has this on video. Additionally, i'm assuming the police officer who broke the passenger window will have crucial testimony in regards to the dog.
So if he pop his truck for about 2 minutes all this could have been avoided.
Message!!!
it's the principle that matters. the cons ution is the supreme law of the land and supersedes the opinion of some cop on a power trip. he shouldn't have had to pop his trunk for 2 minutes in the first place.
If the cops were really doing their job they would not have asked him to do that in the first place.
He did NO wrong here. He exercised his cons utional 4th amendment right. There is no way he should be blamed for that. If the cops can't handle a guy who knows the law better than they do, they should not be police officers.
This Pastor guy is someone who is famous for going around and messing with cops
I got stopped on my way from San Diego back to Los Angeles, just because I had brown skin and guess what, I am an American citizen. The common complaint (usually white people): "Oh we need those stop check points, it is okay if some americans get stopped because it is all part of the process to help eliminate aliens and drugs"
well YOU, you experience it mother er, and tell me how it feels to be racial profiled with no idea if you are dealing with crooked Agents that day. You only envision worst case scenarios.
THey wasted my goddamn time? And what is the reason? DRUGS. Legalize it and we don't need BP. in bull .
Last edited by InRareForm; 05-14-2009 at 03:04 AM.
which is a good thing in my eyes.
This is an interesting, albeit predictable response.
What I find incredibly amusing in this country is that we have secret shopper programs that go around and rate convenience stores and restaurants on quality of service, cleanliness, politeness, etc. We have thousands of websites dedicated to rating everything from videogames to socks.
And yet, we have no such thing geared toward measuring those in this country who have authority above normal citizens, carry loaded weapons, and when a guy like this comes along, he's "just trying to start trouble". Well, so ing what? Officers are supposed to "serve and protect" not "make an example" and "beat to a pulp" anyone who doesn't submit to them in the most unconditional, passive method possible. It's their duty to AVOID conflict and confrontation in situations like this unless it's the LAST resort. In this case, it was their second resort, after arguing with him and finding out that he was actually observant and knew more about what rights he had than the average idiot, and they had a problem with that. He was probably the first guy that came along all day who wasn't so far up their asses that he could tell what they had for breakfast, and far from just being a to him, they beat the living out of him, repeatedly tasered him, and basically stripped away every cons utional right he had. That doesn't bother you?
If you ask me, it would be nice to have about 50 of these guys in every state. Maybe the police would be a little more hesitant to beat the out of someone who POSED NO THREAT to them in the first place, if that were the case.
Last edited by Cry Havoc; 05-14-2009 at 03:20 AM.
lol, you were just waiting to paste or type that
my 'response' was just a fact. i didn't support or criticize his actions, just stated what he was doing
It wasn't directed entirely at you. I just think it's sad how many apologists we have for police officers these days (again, not directed at you). The taser has become an instrument of convenience instead of self-defense.
if you aren't doing anything wrong, then what's the problem with opening your trunk for 2minutes?
I can't get on to Google or YouTube today either... Uh oh...
Yeah, YouTube decided to initiate maintenance due to this video.
Doesn't anyone believe in standing up for principles anymore?
the principle that people should be able to carry whatever they want in their cars?
no, i don't.
I guess youtube guy stands up for your principles though.
Say hypothetically his trunk was full of dildos and gay porn? Or womens underwear? Or it was just full of about 20 empty fast food bags with rotting hamburger carcasses inside? Or a bunch of pictures of his naked wife? Or anything at all that could have been embarrassing, or private... or not.
In America we're cons utionally protected, "to be secure in our persons, houses, papers and effects, from unreasonable searches and seizures."
Did the guy personally have anything to lose by opening his trunk? In a material sense? No, probably not. But he and the rest of us lose a little something of our moral rights every time one of us lets some self-righteous cop trample all over them just because he or she wants to. So the police, this guy did exactly what every red blooded American should be doing when confronted with an American lawman's assault on the Bill of Rights.
lol it is not all fine and dandy like that if you are of brown skin.
*sigh* message boards are full of strawmen fallacies.
if it's all legal, then they close the trunk and he's on his way.
if his trunk was full of drugs, I don't really care how embarassed he gets.
and as soon as you drive out onto a public street, you do not have the same blanket protection as you do in your house.In America we're cons utionally protected, "to be secure in our persons, houses, papers and effects, from unreasonable searches and seizures."
if you are doing nothing wrong, then what little something do you lose by opening your trunk?Did the guy personally have anything to lose by opening his trunk? In a material sense? No, probably not. But he and the rest of us lose a little something of our moral rights every time one of us lets some self-righteous cop trample all over them just because he or she wants to. So the police, this guy did exactly what every red blooded American should be doing when confronted with an American lawman's assault on the Bill of Rights.
keeping society safe > keeping a few people from getting embarassed over their trunk full of dildos
lol brown skin?
*sigh* message boards are full of strawmen fallacies
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