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    Damn, whole bunch of people keep talking about: "trade Ginobili" and "he's too injury prone".

    It was barely but 2 seasons ago that he had his best year with us. He injures one ankle in the playoffs and re-aggravates it in the off-season, As a result, he over-compensates on the other ankle injuring that one when the other was fully healed.

    In the past the past 7 plus seasons, how many times has he honestly injured each of these ankles?

    Manu stays my friends. If he's 100% healthy next season [no excuse for him not to be], he will play with such a chip on his shoulder. If the FO can get some decent guys around the Big 3, and Tim, Manu and Tony are healthy, this will be a championship contending team.

    I agree that Splitter is a long shot so Mahinmi will get a go round the first half of the season. If Pop doesn't like what he see's, Ian is gone in a mid-season trade.

    Marcus Williams may get some playing time, and who knows, maybe the Spurs can sign Gist, or sway Ariza, or still get Sheed or keep Gooden.

    If all of the above could happen, I know next season will be much more successful than this one.


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    Damn, whole bunch of people keep talking about: "trade Ginobili"
    That's plain wrong.

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    yeah how dare fans want to win a le
    trading manu to get a better player in return would not be ok ?

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    yeah how dare fans want to win a le
    trading manu to get a better player in return would not be ok ?
    who could they get for Manu that would make them le contenders?

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    who could they get for Manu that would make them le contenders?
    prince is one that they could get

    jr smith might be avaible for manu
    George Karl loves manu...

    jr smith drives and passes well
    he forces some threes but so does manu

    he can play more
    spurs need someone to play that postion
    paying a guy 10 million to do nothing really hurts a team especially one not owned by cuban

    prince is not as clutch manu
    but spurs have tp late now

    manu hurts the team during the regular season because you have to limit his minutes so much
    spurs have to find their roles on the team..


    someone that is 80-90% close to manu is better then manu now because
    manu will not be the manu back in 2005
    and manu may be only 80% manu of 2005

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    the bird man would help make the spurs contenders

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    the bird man would help make the spurs contenders
    the spurs ARE contenders, superstar.....

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    whole bunch of people keep talking about: "trade Ginobili" and "he's too injury prone".
    You forgot to mention, "Manu's 2006 foul on Dirk".

    Who knows if Manu is damaged goods and unable to play at a high level again? If he is, the medical reports and prognoses would confirm this and other teams would be able to gain knowledge eventually...thus downgrading Manu's trade value.

    The Spurs sorely need another playmaker. If we don't have confirmation from medical professionals that Manu is damaged goods and unable to play at a high level again, then why trade one of the great playmakers in basketball today?

    You trade him for a draft pick wing or pivot player, you roll the dice and may end up getting an Adam Morrison or Hilton Armstrong. I don't see Manu's future as high risk just yet.

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    prince is one that they could get

    jr smith might be avaible for manu
    George Karl loves manu...

    jr smith drives and passes well
    he forces some threes but so does manu

    he can play more
    spurs need someone to play that postion
    paying a guy 10 million to do nothing really hurts a team especially one not owned by cuban

    prince is not as clutch manu
    but spurs have tp late now

    manu hurts the team during the regular season because you have to limit his minutes so much
    spurs have to find their roles on the team..


    someone that is 80-90% close to manu is better then manu now because
    manu will not be the manu back in 2005
    and manu may be only 80% manu of 2005
    Do any of those moves make the Spurs le contenders?

    If not, I can't see trading Manu this summer. I know we won't see the 2005 Manu again, but I think the January, 2009 Manu gives the Spurs a better chance than anything they could get for him this summer. We won't know if he can play at the January, 2009 level until next season.

    If he can't perform at a high level, the Spurs can choose between trading him at the deadline or preserving the cap space for next summer. They don't know enough now to make that kind of decision.

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    does keeping manu make spurs le condenders?
    manu has been hurt the last 2 playoffs

    do spurs play him at all or just bench him to the allstar game?

    not unless they do other things

    he is not going to be able to create like he did before
    spurs need to address this issue and get a guy to be a pitbull like the bird man

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    Do any of those moves make the Spurs le contenders?

    If not, I can't see trading Manu this summer. I know we won't see the 2005 Manu again, but I think the January, 2009 Manu gives the Spurs a better chance than anything they could get for him this summer. We won't know if he can play at the January, 2009 level until next season.

    If he can't perform at a high level, the Spurs can choose between trading him at the deadline or preserving the cap space for next summer. They don't know enough now to make that kind of decision.
    Manu is an expiring contract and he likes S.A. If he has a great season, I think we can still resign him at a good value and let him play out his career here due to his age. If we could get him for 4 years at $20 million from 2010-2013, still effective with a slow steady decline during that time, how do you like him then?

    Manu's injury means we probably don't get equal value for him. Our best bet is to hope he comes back and plays well, and if not we can always let him go after next year.

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    why do you think spurs can resign him
    spurs tried to before he went to play for his country
    he said no then........................

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    what is = value for manu?


    manu 2005 sure you are not going to get that in return unless you deal with an idiot

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    jr smith on the spurs right now
    spurs would be still playing

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    does keeping manu make spurs le condenders
    not unless they do other things

    he is not going to be able to create like he did before
    spurs need to address this issue and get a guy to be a pitbull like the bird man
    If he can play at the level he showed in January, 2009.

    The Spurs were 32-12 with Manu. That's a 60-win pace.

    They have to find out how much he still has left before they consider trading him. I could only see them trading him this summer for someone on the level of Bosh and I don't think Toronto makes that deal.

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    what is = value for manu?

    manu 2005 sure you are not going to get that in return unless you deal with an idiot
    We deal with you... can't get any worse than that...
    I mean, JR Smith, Birdman or Prince make us contenders? WTF are you smoking?

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    why do you think spurs can resign him
    spurs tried to before he went to play for his country
    he said no then........................
    I think you have that backwards and it was discussons about a contract extension.

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    why do you think spurs can resign him
    spurs tried to before he went to play for his country
    he said no then........................
    Spurs broke off negotiations, not Manu

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    the spurs need three star players healthy
    if spurs can another player that stays healthy and puts up the same stats
    spurs would be on the 60 win pace and still be healthy in playoffs
    and have that swagger to win it all

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    jr smith on the spurs right now
    spurs would be still playing
    No we wouldn't be. We have no second unit. Manu is our entire bench.
    JR Smith is a brainless chucker. He's a high flyer, but has ZERO basketball IQ.

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    I think you have that backwards and it was discussons about a contract extension.
    yeah I know it was about a contract extenstiion
    he refused.......................

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    No we wouldn't be. We have no second unit. Manu is our entire bench.
    JR Smith is a brainless chucker. He's a high flyer, but has ZERO basketball IQ.
    jr smith would come off the bench
    o!

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    yeah I know it was about a contract extenstiion
    he refused.......................
    No he didn't. Spurs took the offer off the table.

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    you have birdman and jr smith doing what they are doing this postseason with denver
    spurs would have won a le as long as tp and duncan were playing the same level

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    jr smith would come off the bench
    o!
    To do what? Jack up treys? Have you actually seen JR play?

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