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Since when Ghazi counts more than one person?
i thought dirk already won a championship in 2006. at least that's what the mavs fans say. if they say it enough it must be true right?
Since when Ghazi counts more than one person?
When push comes to shove we'll see if Dirk really wants to win a ring in Dallas. He can opt out of his 20million deal after this next season and re-sign for $5 million. He is one of the few players I think would actually do that.
Ok deal.
Steve Nash (borderline HOF)
Dirk Nowitzki (Hall of Famer)
Michael Finley
Shawn Bradley
Van Exel
Walt Williams
Raef Lafrentz
Eduardo Najera
Tim Duncan (Hall of Famer)
Tony Parker (potential HOF)
Manu Ginobili (Hall of Famer)
David Robinson (Hall of Famer)
Stephen Jackson
Bruce Bowen (best defender in the game)
Malik Rose
Danny Ferry
Steve Kerr
Kevin Willis
for the of it lets compare coaches
Poppovich-4 rings
Nellie-i luv teh offense
Now tell me which roster has more talent when you take Dirk and Duncan out of the equation.
Ok deal.
Steve Nash (borderline HOF)
Dirk Nowitzki (Hall of Famer)
Michael Finley
Shawn Bradley
Van Exel
Walt Williams
Raef Lafrentz
Eduardo Najera
Tim Duncan (Hall of Famer)
Tony Parker (potential HOF)
Manu Ginobili (Hall of Famer)
David Robinson (Hall of Famer)
Stephen Jackson
Bruce Bowen (best defender in the game)
Malik Rose
Danny Ferry
Steve Kerr
Kevin Willis
for the of it lets compare coaches
Poppovich-4 rings
Nellie-i luv teh offense
Now tell me which roster has more talent when you take Dirk and Duncan out of the equation.
I know I'm a Spurs fan, but that 's funny. And seriously..the Spurs had a LOT more talent.
As much as I respect the man D-Rob was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the hill in 03.
manu was a rookieOk deal.
Steve Nash (borderline HOF)
Dirk Nowitzki (Hall of Famer)
Michael Finley
Shawn Bradley
Van Exel
Walt Williams
Raef Lafrentz
Eduardo Najera
Tim Duncan (Hall of Famer)
Tony Parker (potential HOF)
Manu Ginobili (Hall of Famer)
David Robinson (Hall of Famer)
Stephen Jackson
Bruce Bowen (best defender in the game)
Malik Rose
Danny Ferry
Steve Kerr
Kevin Willis
for the of it lets compare coaches
Poppovich-4 rings
Nellie-i luv teh offense
Now tell me which roster has more talent when you take Dirk and Duncan out of the equation.
parker was in his second season
duncan was at the peak of his carreer
robinson was at the end of the hill
stephon jackson was his breakout year
bruce bowen was begging to be a lockdown defender
malik rose was good
everyoneelse was old
finley dirk and nash were all good
van exal had a break out season with lafrentz
walt williams was good also
yall defintly had the talent but not the chemistry
03 D-Rob is still leaps and bounds better than any center the Mavs have had in the Dirk era.
lol at you trying to justify that. If you give the Mavs either S Jax or Bowen, 2 of the worst players on that list, the Mavs win the 06 le no contest.
It's important to know that Not all of these players were in their primes when Duncan played with them. The 2003 championship was Drob's last year and he saw a serious decrease in playing time in favor of Malik Rose. Parker was little more than a project at the time and Ginobili was a rookie. Duncan was the only all star on the team that year, and the Spurs still won a championship. Has Dirk ever even been on a team where he was the only all star, much less winning a championship with one.Ok deal.
Steve Nash (borderline HOF)
Dirk Nowitzki (Hall of Famer)
Michael Finley
Shawn Bradley
Van Exel
Walt Williams
Raef Lafrentz
Eduardo Najera
Tim Duncan (Hall of Famer)
Tony Parker (potential HOF)
Manu Ginobili (Hall of Famer)
David Robinson (Hall of Famer)
Stephen Jackson
Bruce Bowen (best defender in the game)
Malik Rose
Danny Ferry
Steve Kerr
Kevin Willis
for the of it lets compare coaches
Poppovich-4 rings
Nellie-i luv teh offense
Now tell me which roster has more talent when you take Dirk and Duncan out of the equation.
And it's convenient that you leave guys like Terry, Howard and Stackhouse off of Dirk's list.
It blows my mind like getting shot in the face with a shotgun how Mavs fans genuinely see the 2006 finals as rigged. The rules that allowed them to beat the Spurs are what allowed Dwade to pulverize them. It was so consistent.
Why don't you list all the great centers that Duncan has played with after Robinson.
In 2003 none of them was a member of the Mavericks...
And it's convenient that you leave guys like Terry, Howard and Stackhouse off of Dirk's list.
My mistake,I thought he was talking about all the players that they played with throughout their careers. But even if you compare just their 2003 squads I still don't see Dirk having the inferior cast.
I hope you're not referring to my post.
Why don't you list all the great centers that Duncan has played with after Robinson.
Why don't list all the at least formidable centers Dirk has ever played with?
Let's see, Lafrentz, Bradley,Dampier and Diop. Not much, but I'd take them over what Duncan has won championships with after Robinson. Francisco Elson, Nazr Mohammed, Oberto, Radoslav Nesterovic, and Matt Bonner.
Last edited by TD4THREE; 05-16-2009 at 05:39 PM.
All of those Mavs' centers added up still isn't as effective as D-Rob.
Mavs were good in 03 06 (championship year) and 07
we shouldnt act as if Dirk has never been blessed w/ good teams and good talent.
Duncan's talent has been better, but I doubt Dirk wins 4 rings if he's in Duncan's place. Maybe 0-2.
all mav fans here, would you take Brook Lopez as a Center?(not that it is happening, just wondering)
I think Mavs would be better if they had him instead of the Center they have
I like Brook
better than damp fo sho
better than kaman too which for some reason a bunch of Mavs fans have a hardon for.
Dirk will never get a ring until the Mav's put a hard nose star next to him. Dirk is a good guy and a great player but he is not the leader who will go out and tell other players on the team to get off their dead ass and play hard. Cuban needs to go sit in a box somewhere. Having your boss who signs your checks looking over your shoulder in the seat behind you all the time sucks. Cuban needs to realize he is not the star on the Mav's and get the out of the way. Mark it's not about you, it's about the players. Donnie Nelson ? Who else in the league would make him their GM.
I thought Brook was better then damp this season, even if he was only a rookie, if he gets better I think he will be better then damp in the future, which is great for the Nets
I don't watch to much of Kaman playing so I wouldn't know about him, I actually find it funny Mav fans want Shaq(he was great at one point, but he can break down at any minute now I think)
At least the Spurs won 4 championships before their eventual decline.Something the Mavs and Spurs have in common
Don't think he would. Lots of money to be left on the table for the "chance" for a ring. If he did something like that to free up cap space to improve his chances, I, for one, would have infinite respect for him.
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