Nuggets, WWE In Smackdown Over Arena Conflict

[Spursfan092120]

Not even close. Not even in the realm of being close. Soccer. Boom. You're wrong and I don't even have to pull the figures up.

Again, quan y != quality.

Soccer? Dude...wrestling is watched in large quan ies in every country...Soccer isn't popular in EVERY country..it isn't even popular in America. Thing is, when it comes to people who watch wrestling on television, more people watch it than anything else...and that includes paying an average of $60 for a Pay Per View. If you are telling me that the fact that people pay $60 to see something on TV that has the same wrestlers every month, and still more people watch it than ANY game of the NBA Finals, or World Series isn't impressive, then that's completely ignorant.

[Cry Havoc]

These guys work 320+ days out of the year...how many sports figures do the kind of extensive work that wrestlers do for over 320 days out of the year?

You're right. Those basketball and football players, they're just sitting on their asses and chugging down ho-ho's in the off-season.

And when it comes to masquerading itself as something serious....duh...if they didn't, no one would watch it. People like to feel like they're watching something serious..even if it's not. That's like people who watch movies and get into them. Or their favorite tv show. You get involved in it. If fans saw wrestlers beating each other up in the ring and then hanging out backstage and laughing it up in the gym, no one would watch.

There's a distinct difference between a TV show or movie that's offering the illusion of reality to be poignant or offer a reflection about humanity, or to even tell a basic story about the relationship between people and what happens to them and a faux-sport masquerading-but-not-really as an actual fight between two individuals to win a championship that has been pre-planned. I might know the movie, "Schindler's List" is not real, but it offers a view on humanity that can be interpreted and learned from. The CG movie "Finding Nemo" is still a witty, humorous diatribe about how tragedy can cause difficult issues for a person who is suddenly afraid of life. Even something as silly as "Pirates of the Caribbean" has a relative amount of strong dialogue and character development.

WWE is two to four guys beating the crap out of each other. Except not really.

[Cry Havoc]

If you are telling me that the fact that people pay $60 to see something on TV that has the same wrestlers every month, and still more people watch it than ANY game of the NBA Finals, or World Series isn't impressive, then that's completely ignorant.

Millions of people bought Britney Spears CDs in the late 90s. By your logic, she's one of the best singers of all time and is a highly impressive individual. I'll repeat myself again: quan y != quality.

Soccer? Dude...wrestling is watched in large quan ies in every country...Soccer isn't popular in EVERY country..it isn't even popular in America. Thing is, when it comes to people who watch wrestling on television, more people watch it than anything else...and that includes paying an average of $60 for a Pay Per View.

Are you actually saying that wrestling is more popular than soccer?



Just stop dude. Just STOP. You're so ing wrong it's not even worth talking about anymore.

[Spursfan092120]

I want to see a in a Cell match ....Big Show vs. K-Mart

LMAO..Elimination Chamber... Big Show, K-Mart, Cuban, Randy Orton, John Cena, Carmelo Anthony (just to see if he'd try to run...it'd be difficult)

[Spursfan092120]

Are you actually saying that wrestling is more popular than soccer?



Just stop dude. Just STOP. You're so ing wrong it's not even worth talking about anymore.

Whoa whoa..when did I say that? Look back..I said AS popular..if not more. I would say that more people watch wrestling on television worldwide than soccer...absolutely. And anyone who watches wrestling today would agree with me. That's in the ratings. You can check that out for yourself. Truth is...every April, the WWE has Wrestlemania..an event that costs $65 to watch. More people watch it than ANY OTHER game in any other sport, except the Super Bowl..and all of those are free. That's saying something. No need to start cussing dude...I'm not trying to offend you..I'm just saying that wrestling is still VERY popular..

[duncan228]

Updated.

Nuggets, WWE in smackdown over arena confict
By Brian Mahoney

Kobe Bryant and the Los Angeles Lakers are scheduled to be at the Pepsi Center in Denver next Monday night.

Problem is, so are John Cena and a bunch of wrestlers—and they called it first.

World Wrestling Entertainment said it is booked at the arena for an episode of Monday Night Raw, the same night the Nuggets are slated to host the Lakers in Game 4 of the Western Conference finals.

WWE chairman Vince McMahon told The Associated Press he doesn’t believe there was “any malice, just ineptness,” on the part of Kroenke Sports, which owns the team and the building, but can’t tolerate the company “just simply throwing us out on our ear.”

Without a quick resolution, McMahon plans to send his trucks to Denver.

“That’s what we intend to do,” he said. “We’re going to show up.”

WWE spokesman Robert Zimmerman said the organization secured the Pepsi Center last Aug. 15 and has already sold more than 10,000 tickets for the event. He says the organization expects a sellout, with tickets ranging from $20 to $70.

McMahon blamed Kroenke for not believing his team was good enough to still be playing in mid-May.

“The fans in Denver had a lot more faith in making the playoffs than the owner,” he said in a phone interview from Louisville, where Raw was taking place later Monday night.

Denver is usually done with basketball by now. The Nuggets had lost in the first round five straight years, but as the No. 2 seed in the West are in the conference finals for the first time since 1985.

Paul Andrews, executive vice president of Kroenke Sports Enterprises, issued a statement Monday night concerning the scheduling conflict, saying: “We are working with the WWE to resolve the situation amicably.”

The league, which handles scheduling during the playoffs, is leaving it up to the team and the WWE to figure things out.

“The Nuggets and the WWE understand that the date of Game 4 of the Western Conference Finals cannot be changed,” NBA senior vice president Mike Bass said. “We are confident that the Pepsi Center and the WWE will resolve their scheduling conflict.”

Zimmerman said the Pepsi Center confirmed in March with the WWE that the organization wanted to keep the May 25 date, and sent a contract on April 15— the final night of the regular season—which WWE signed and returned. Tickets went on sale April 11.

The conflict didn’t arise until Sunday, when the Lakers beat the Houston Rockets in Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals. Had the Rockets won, Denver would have had home-court advantage in the next round, hosting Games 1 and 2 and putting the May 25 game in Houston.

As of Monday afternoon, the schedule on the Pepsi Center’s Web site listed WWE for 6:30 p.m. local time and Western Conference finals Game 4 at 7 p.m. Tickets for the wrestling event could still be purchased online.

McMahon said he couldn’t guess how much he would make from the show, but that canceling wasn’t easy because of how much is involved in moving his equipment, plus filling its obligated time slot on USA Network. Litigation is likely—but he plans to be putting on a card.

“When you do have a date, you plan everything around it,” he said, adding, “we may be holding an event in a parking lot somewhere.”

[Cry Havoc]

Whoa whoa..when did I say that? Look back..I said AS popular..if not more. I would say that more people watch wrestling on television worldwide than soccer...absolutely. And anyone who watches wrestling today would agree with me. That's in the ratings. You can check that out for yourself. Truth is...every April, the WWE has Wrestlemania..an event that costs $65 to watch. More people watch it than ANY OTHER game in any other sport, except the Super Bowl..and all of those are free. That's saying something. No need to start cussing dude...I'm not trying to offend you..I'm just saying that wrestling is still VERY popular..

I can't really fault you. My guess is that you are very young and do not realize the implications of what you say when you make assumptions that wrestling is even one iota as popular around the world as soccer. They are not in the same stratosphere, my friend. Soccer is THE sport in the world. THE entertainment. Short of the Olympics, nothing is even on the same tier as soccer when you are speaking to a worldwide audience. For you to even make a passing comparison between soccer and wrestling shows that you know little about what you speak of, but it is likely out of youth rather than denial. I apologize for my harsh words, but I caution you to do a little research before making grandiose claims, because they often reveal severe levels of ignorance.

[Spursfan092120]

I can't really fault you. My guess is that you are very young and do not realize the implications of what you say when you make assumptions that wrestling is even one iota as popular around the world as soccer. They are not in the same stratosphere, my friend. Soccer is THE sport in the world. THE entertainment. Short of the Olympics, nothing is even on the same tier as soccer when you are speaking to a worldwide audience.

I'm 29 years old...I've seen ratings of soccer games..I've seen ratings of WWE..worldwide. on television, WWE is just as good. In person, yes, it's different. Soccer stadiums hold 100,000 people in some places, if not more. Wrestling events only hold 10-20,000 people. I'm not going to argue here...it doesn't matter that much to me. Wrestling is something that everyone can watch. I wouldn't watch soccer in person or on television...and that's not saying I hate it..I used to play it. I'm just saying I don't like watching it. And I'm sure there are people who say the same about wrestling. But wrestling is popular..maybe not overall more popular than soccer..and I never said it was...but the way you described it...a bunch of people who "drive around in a truck playing hillbilly music" is an ignorant statement. These guys are entertainers and athletes...and 95% of professional sports athletes could not do what they do on a daily basis.

[Allanon]

New update:

Unverified as of yet but WWE Raw has been moved to Sunday 6PM to get out of the way....even big ass oiled up men in leo s have to move aside for the Laker Juggernaut.

Incidentally, isn't Monday a part of Memorial Day weekend? Should draw a huge crowd.

[ElNono]

New update:

Unverified as of yet but WWE Raw has been moved to Sunday 6PM to get out of the way....even big ass oiled up men in leo s have to move aside for the Laker Juggernaut.

Incidentally, isn't Monday a part of Memorial Day weekend? Should draw a huge crowd.

New New Update:

Kenyon Martin will work both Sunday for the WWE and Monday for the Nuggets.

[Spursfan092120]

New New Update:

Kenyon Martin will work both Sunday for the WWE and Monday for the Nuggets.

[Spursfan092120]

New update:

Unverified as of yet but WWE Raw has been moved to Sunday 6PM to get out of the way....even big ass oiled up men in leo s have to move aside for the Laker Juggernaut.

Incidentally, isn't Monday a part of Memorial Day weekend? Should draw a huge crowd.

where'd you hear this?

[JustBlaze]

Ha, it'll be real interesting how this mess unfolds through the week. And Vince for taking numerous jabs @ the Nuggets.

[Spursfan092120]

Ha, it'll be real interesting how this mess unfolds through the week. And Vince for taking numerous jabs @ the Nuggets.

lol..Vince would up all the Nuggets...one by one..lol...dude works out in the gym more than the wrestlers.



I don't think he was taking jabs at the Nuggs..I think he was jabbing at the owner of the building and owner of the team. I guess that's the same thing...but as a fan, aren't you a little peeved that the organization didn't even think enough of the team to book the arena through the middle of June, just in case they got where they now are?

[Allanon]

where'd you hear this?

Gossip; actually...somebody heard from somebody.

The only thing I do know is that the NBA will have it's way....Lakers/Nuggets will not be affected.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...20/detail.html

Pepsi Center officials told 7NEWS the Nuggets game is definitely on for Monday night.

But WWE was planning a live, internationally televised broadcast -- WWE Monday Night RAW® -- that night and it's already sold out.

WWE said it has held the May 25 date with Pepsi Center since Aug. 15, 2008.

"Even though the Denver Nuggets had a strong team this year and were projected to make the playoffs, obviously Nuggets and Pepsi Center owner Stan Kroenke did not have enough faith in his own team to hold the May 25th date for a potential playoff game," said WWE Chairman Vince McMahon in a statement to 7NEWS.

Pepsi Center officials said it is working with the WWE on a resolution and it is up to WWE to decide if the wrestling event will be rescheduled or moved to another venue.

But the WWE is not budging.

"We are hoping there is a rabbit pulled out of a hat somewhere," McMahon said during an interview with 7NEWS.

Pepsi Center officials said when a decision is reached, the information will be posted on the Pepsi Center's Web site and a news release will be sent out.

[JustBlaze]

Man, Rocky would knock his old ass out.

[Allanon]

WWE could really take this downer and turn it into a cash cow.

Go find the nearest parkng lot for rental and hold an outdoors WWE megafest...that'd be one for the ages.

[Spursfan092120]

Gossip; actually...somebody heard from somebody.

The only thing I do know is that the NBA will have it's way....Lakers/Nuggets will not be affected.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...20/detail.html

Pepsi Center officials told 7NEWS the Nuggets game is definitely on for Monday night.

But WWE was planning a live, internationally televised broadcast -- WWE Monday Night RAW® -- that night and it's already sold out.

WWE said it has held the May 25 date with Pepsi Center since Aug. 15, 2008.

"Even though the Denver Nuggets had a strong team this year and were projected to make the playoffs, obviously Nuggets and Pepsi Center owner Stan Kroenke did not have enough faith in his own team to hold the May 25th date for a potential playoff game," said WWE Chairman Vince McMahon in a statement to 7NEWS.

Pepsi Center officials said it is working with the WWE on a resolution and it is up to WWE to decide if the wrestling event will be rescheduled or moved to another venue.

But the WWE is not budging.

"We are hoping there is a rabbit pulled out of a hat somewhere," McMahon said during an interview with 7NEWS.

Pepsi Center officials said when a decision is reached, the information will be posted on the Pepsi Center's Web site and a news release will be sent out.

Wouldn't surprise me. Vince is actually not a bad guy...probably just kind of upset..he stands to lose a lot of money. If he wanted to be a , he could sue for specific performance, since he does have the contract for that day, and would win. He probably won't do that, though. Something will be figured out.

[Spursfan092120]

Man, Rocky would knock his old ass out.

sheeit...Vince can fight, man...lol

[dirk4mvp]

I caught the last match of whatever wrestling show was on tonight. It was ing corny.

[ducks]

are the rockies in town?
if not the wwe can perform in that stadium

[TheProfessor]

Wouldn't surprise me. Vince is actually not a bad guy...probably just kind of upset..he stands to lose a lot of money. If he wanted to be a , he could sue for specific performance, since he does have the contract for that day, and would win. He probably won't do that, though. Something will be figured out.

Vince McMahon is a piece of . It's hard to think of anyone who has wrecked more lives with his product and done less to help his employees, when his hand wasn't forced by the government or negative publicity.

[Spursfan092120]

I caught the last match of whatever wrestling show was on tonight. It was ing corny.

and what exactly was corny about it? what happened?

[Spursfan092120]

WWE wins the battle...

http://www.ticketmaster.com/promo/yerofe

http://www.pepsicenter.com/Events/Ev...d=pqlh/9z9g0w=

Game 4 was cancelled in the Pepsi Center...they'll probably just play it somewhere else, I guess.

[ElNono]

I bet you they move it to wednesday if they want to keep it on ESPN, or tuesday if it goes on TNT.