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The trade exception.
the poster I was responding to was referring to immediate improvements
The trade exception.
Quite true. Now to identify a team with TE large enough to absorb one of our "garbage" players without demanding something of value (future draft picks ) in return. Just as we are hoping that the FO takes advantage of some other team's need to shed salary and makes a trade where the Spurs get a talent upgrade, any transaction the Spurs make to shed salary will also come at a price.
The idea is that the Spurs could manage their trades so that they get a trade exception. Since we're talking about dealing a bunch of expiring contracts anyway, it's probably six of one and a half-dozen of the other regarding what difference a trade exception makes, but nevertheless, what rascal said did make sense.
we should offload Bonner and oberto before Thomas. thomas is more effective than those other 2
We should just tear the entire team down, and spend the money we don't have signing All-Star/All-NBA talent. I don't care how the FO does it. It's their job to make it happen.
Ironically Kurt Thomas was a main piece of one of the last trades in which a team looking for a TE dealt an expiring contract. Phoenix traded Kurt Thomas's expiring contract together with 2 first round picks to Seattle ( now OKC ) for nothing. Now, imagine if the Spurs did something similar ( the Scola trade ), you guys would be the first in line to throw stones at the FO again. I guess they just can't win either way eh?
The Spurs have $30 million in expiring contracts. They should be able to upgrade the team, but instead everyone will go on making excuses for R.C. Buford's incompetence.
I don't want to be argumentative and I definitely don't want to appear dense, but your post confuses me.
As far as I know, there are only two ways the Spurs can get a TE. They can trade a player to a team that already holds a TE that is sufficiently large or they can trade a player to a team that is far enough below the cap to absorb the contract.
In either case there must be a reason for the other team to make the trade. They can want the player enough to take him without asking anything in return(think Camby to the Clips) or they will want a fee for their services (think KT plus 2 first rounders from PHX to Seattle). So do you see any team that CAN take one of the players that you would like to see replaced and WOULD take that player without demanding something of value in return?
I believe the salaries have to be similar, within a specific variance. So if we trade Boner and Oberto for one guy, their combined $6.7 million salary needs to approximately match the contract we take on. I don't know a ton of guys out there making $7 million that is a long-term deal that the other team wants rid off and would be attractive to us. Sure that is possible, remember Malik Rose. However, there are numerous motivations for teams and layers of complexity. The observation is obviously correct that the FO needs to explore them all. Seems to me the better chance right now is try for a MLE and/or LLE player and make minor roster tweaks otherwise.
I am also not sure on the trade rules if you can trade 3 players for 1. Say for example Bowen + Bonner + Oberto for someone making $11 million over 3 years. But do we really want a contract like thay anyway? I suspect by throwing in a low salary guy it could be done.
More and more it seems like 2010 plan, with as much money in hand as possible, is the way to go. Then we can figure out the Manu situation. We could also replace the guys above and Bowen with younger players making smaller salaries of $1-$2 million. Examples could be Splitter, Jaktovas, Sandizke, or even the Bourasis guy, and sorry I know my spelling is iffy there. We don't necessarily have to go international either, with Gist and Hairston, or perhaps someone from summer league that emerges or a draft pick from 2009-2010.
Right, so the Spurs should go to the Orlando Magic and demand for Dwight Howard in exchange or go to Lakers and demand Kobe Bryant ask Denver for Carmelo Anthony for expiring contracts such as Finley, Bonner, Thomas, and Mason.....after all the other team would get that caproom to make a play for the LeBron/Wade sweepstakes in 2010!!
Bucks to keep KT:
Ex-Spur Thomas is part of plan
"But what about Kurt Thomas, the veteran forward-center and the third San Antonio player involved in the trade?
The 6-foot-9, 240-pound Thomas is part of the Bucks' plans for the coming season, an experienced pro who can help the young talent the team has acquired.
General manager John Hammond sees Thomas as a player who can provide support at both the power forward and center positions, helping to back up center Andrew Bogut and the Bucks' young trio of power forwards - Hakim Warrick, Amir Johnson and Ersan Ilyasova.
"The question is how many minutes can he play," Hammond said. "You don't want to wear him out."
Thomas will turn 37 on Oct. 4 and will be starting his 15th NBA season, a remarkable record of endurance. He was a first-round pick of the Miami Heat in the 1995 draft, the 10th overall selection.
"He's a pro's pro," Hammond said. "The fact is he's a guy you can have on the floor to finish games. He can step up to make the big shot, and he knows how to defend on the interior. His rebounding numbers are excellent.
"And he's excited about being here."
Thomas also has a cap-friendly contract, with one year and $3.8 million remaining on a deal he signed with the Spurs in July 2008."
R.C. owned thee.
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