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  1. #51
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    Being voted Finals MVP is irrelevant.

    The Lakers would not have won in 2000 were it not for Kobe's heroics in the Finals. He was very much a pivotal player in all of those championships, equally as important as Shaq was. To try and say one was more valuable than the other because of some dumbass media award is ludicrous at best and only shows how pathetic you are in your hatred of Bryant who has crushed the Spurs countless times in the playoffs.

    Just say it. You hate Kobe because of what he has done to your team over and over and over again in the playoffs.

  2. #52
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    I don't need to re-watch a whole lot when Shaq was voted by specialized media as the Finals MVP 3 times in a row when KB24 got nada...

    Being clutch in a 4th quarter doesn't make you the best player on the team either...

    You have NO WAY to prove me wrong with my statement... give up already...
    if u did rewatch the playoffs those years, you would know that Shaq did win the Finals MVP, but if there were a Playoff MVP, Kobe would have gotten 2 out of the 3. Even haters know that.

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    As far as I know the NBA doesn't specifically record stats for inside the arc midrange shots.
    Wrong. Ever been to NBA hot spots?

    Since 2004 (I would include 2003 but they didn't have it for that year), Lebron has shot over 36% on midrange shots (1133 of 3131). Yes, not very impressive, but no one ever said it was either. Just something that can be improved on.

    However, since 2004 he has also shot 33% on 3pt shots (574 of 1704).

    So if you don't have evidence to back up your stupid-ass claims, then shut the up, dumbass.

  4. #54
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    Everybody knows...

    Horry > Shaq > Rick Fox > Isaiah Rider > Kobe

  5. #55
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    Being voted Finals MVP is irrelevant.
    is it?

    The Lakers would not have won in 2000 were it not for Kobe's heroics in the Finals. He was very much a pivotal player in all of those championships, equally as important as Shaq was. To try and say one was more valuable than the other because of some dumbass media award is ludicrous at best and only shows how pathetic you are in your hatred of Bryant who has crushed the Spurs countless times in the playoffs.
    in other words you're saying that being the second best player on the team as Shaq's sidekick puts you at the same level of LBJ that has no such thing on his team? sorry I LOL'd that would mean Manu=KB24 (and they have the same amount of rings playing as a sidekick star)

    Just say it. You hate Kobe because of what he has done to your team over and over and over again in the playoffs.
    I don't hate KB24 at all... link to where you can prove that??? he is a joy to watch if you like basketball and i do... but your statements arent convincing anyone that he is even on LBJ's league...

  6. #56
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    if u did rewatch the playoffs those years, you would know that Shaq did win the Finals MVP, but if there were a Playoff MVP, Kobe would have gotten 2 out of the 3. Even haters know that.
    dude... get real... the Lakers will end up retiring nbr 8 not 24...

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    in other words you're saying that being the second best player on the team as Shaq's sidekick puts you at the same level of LBJ that has no such thing on his team? sorry I LOL'd that would mean Manu=KB24 (and they have the same amount of rings playing as a sidekick star)
    that is why rings are such an overrated stat when measuring an individual player and his abilities.

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    I don't how Laker fan can argue the 3-peat team was Shaq's team.

    Do they Lakers win in '02 without Horry's shot?

    Does that make Horry just as important as Shaq and Kobe on that Laker's team?

  9. #59
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    It's always been the same for Kobe and Shaq. Shaq would dominate the first 3 quarters and Kobe would take over in the 4th. Shaq's free throw liability made Kobe an instant hero.

    And that's how the legend of Kobe "The Closer" Bryant began.

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    And that's how the legend of Kobe "The Closer" Bryant began.
    can we please stop with the sucking

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    I'm Mavs>Spurs bitch Allanon's Avatar
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    can we please stop with the sucking
    Slurp, slurp, slurp. Be all you can be, Stretch.

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    I find it rather surprising that I have to explain Kobe's importance in each of those 3 rings to a Spur fan. They of all people should know better.

    Kobe absolutely murdered the Spurs.

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    Slurp, slurp, slurp.
    Don't be greedy Allanon save some of the load for Dr.House and TheMAChine

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    I find it rather surprising that I have to explain Kobe's importance in each of those 3 rings to a Spur fan. They of all people should know better.

    Kobe absolutely murdered the Spurs.
    Indeed he destroyed the Spurs props to that ...

    Still that doesn't make him the best player on the threepeat...

    so being "important" = the best player on the team for you?

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    Don't be greedy Allanon save some of the load for Dr.House and TheMAChine
    Nah. Kobe's black, his 's so big there's enough left for you to have a lickspace, too. Come on in!

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    Indeed he destroyed the Spurs props to that ...

    Still that doesn't make him the best player on the threepeat...

    so being "important" = the best player on the team for you?
    I'd say it's more 60/40 in terms of who was more important, with the nod going to Shaq obviously.

    But to then turn this around and say Kobe doesn't deserve his 3 rings, which is exactly what Spur fans try to do, is completely dishonest and disingenuous at best.

    The Lakers aren't winning a single championship without either Kobe or Shaq. Period. That's my point.

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    I find it rather surprising that I have to explain Kobe's importance in each of those 3 rings to a Spur fan. They of all people should know better.

    Kobe absolutely murdered the Spurs.
    Not really. The Spurs playoff record against the Shaq/Kobe Lakers is 2-3. Hardly murder.

    And I don't think anybody claims Kobe doesn't deserves his rings. He was simply not the leader OR best player in those teams. And there's really nothing to argue about that.

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    I find it rather surprising that I have to explain Kobe's importance in each of those 3 rings to a Spur fan. They of all people should know better.

    Kobe absolutely murdered the Spurs.
    I find it amusing when you make claims that have no backing to them.

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    But to then turn this around and say Kobe doesn't deserve his 3 rings, which is exactly what Spur fans try to do, is completely dishonest and disingenuous at best.
    link to prove this???

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    I'd say it's more 60/40 in terms of who was more important, with the nod going to Shaq obviously.

    But to then turn this around and say Kobe doesn't deserve his 3 rings, which is exactly what Spur fans try to do, is completely dishonest and disingenuous at best.

    The Lakers aren't winning a single championship without either Kobe or Shaq. Period. That's my point.
    Who the said that? stop making up.

  21. #71
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    Jordan > Lebron > Kobe

    There really shouldn't be any questions about this anymore.

    And 00 to 02 Kobe rings = 90's Jordan riings is hilarious.
    Let me get the logic straight.
    Kobe had Shaq, but Jordan had Pippen, does that mean that Jordan = Pippen then? They both won 6 rings, and neither of them won it without the other.

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    All the great players of the last 3 decades are in this video.

    There's one "great" player obviously missing, I wonder why he isn't there? And it ain't Charles Barkley


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    All the great players of the last 3 decades are in this video.

    There's one "great" player obviously missing, I wonder why he isn't there? And it ain't Charles Barkley

    Andrew Bynum?

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    I came into this thread with an open mind, and read to argue a case for MJ. But after you so blatantly failed miserably at writing it, posted multiple reasons why jordan is better, then somehow came to the conclusion LBJ is better, I'm not gonna waste my time.

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