How does this new girl look dude?
First off, I was at the game last night so I wasn't avoiding the board like DrHouse does after a Lakers loss. I only post from my phone at games during times of extreme boredom. Since last night I was with a new girl I'm seeing, I was trying not to impress her by posting to a message board from my phone. I am a season ticket holder who rarely went to any regular season games, but I will be going to every Playoff game from now on out so don't expect me sharing in your glee when the Cavs lose. I have been a regular on this board despite my Cavs getting swept by the namesake of this board in the 2007 Finals. I don't shy away from it when my team loses. Unless you live in Cleveland, you don't understand how we think. For example, last night's loss was painful- however, because I'm a Cleveland sports fan, I already prepared myself for the let down months ago. Part of being a Cleveland Sports fan means that even when your team is poised to win it all, you convince yourself they will blow it somehow so when the day actually comes when they choke, it doesn't hurt that bad. So as much as it hurt last night to lose a game we were leading by 15 points, it's really just Cleveland being Cleveland- so when you guys take jabs at me calling my teams ty how they haven't won anything, it doesn't bother me because I agree, we choke in every sport. We are the best second best sports town in America.
That said, the series isn't over, some of you act as if the Magic won the whole thing last night. I said it would be a tough series for the Cavs. I didn't expect a sweep, and I even wouldn't be surprised if we lost. Rashard was lights out last night- nothing you can do about that. The Magic pose a ton of problems for the Cavs. They won 59 games this season, which is no fluke. The one thing about the Magic is that they are consistently inconsistent. On any given night they could lose to the Clippers at home, or they could beat the 1996 Bulls in Chicago. They just take so many threes and outside shots that if they are falling, nobody can beat them.
On another note, I don't want to hear anyone about the Cavs getting all the calls. The call on Z with 2 minutes left on Turk was very questionable, and the call on Andy with under a minute left was stupid because Turk lowered his shoulder into him. There were calls on both sides that could have gone either way.
Anyway, the night was not all lost. I caught one of those mini plastic balls during one of the time outs and on the way out of the game I got it signed by the best football player to ever live, Jim Brown. It's hard to place a value on something as rare as a mini plastic basketball signed by an NFL legend
Congrats on the ball signing.
Also, like you said it's only one game. Most Laker fans aren't worth responding to anyhow.
I know of what you speak.Unless you live in Cleveland, you don't understand how we think. For example, last night's loss was painful- however, because I'm a Cleveland sports fan, I already prepared myself for the let down months ago. Part of being a Cleveland Sports fan means that even when your team is poised to win it all, you convince yourself they will blow it somehow so when the day actually comes when they choke, it doesn't hurt that bad. So as much as it hurt last night to lose a game we were leading by 15 points, it's really just Cleveland being Cleveland
In Ohio but not a Cleveland sports fan but I see it all the time. Fans start to get that "look". I could feel it by watching the game last night. It was Indians in the World Series with Jose Mesa pitching Game 6 all over again. I'm a an fan and I felt the same way about facing the Ravens in the playoffs again.
Me and my buddy were laughing about that the other day. We totally screwed you guys out of a SuperBowl this year. We should not had won that game. No way Pittsburgh beats you guys in Tennessee. And I think you guys would had handled Warner too.
she is alright. I'm not smitten though. I'm going Friday with guy friends so if we lose again I can show a little more emotion. My friend who I have the tickets with couldn't go to the game, so I broke the man law of taking a girl that doesn't really give a about basketball to a big game, which is bad because when the Cavs are in the middle of playing 1 on 5, and standing around watching Lebron, I can't yell and get pissed. I couldn't get pissed after the loss, I had to act like it was no big thing. I had to go out to a bar after the game even though I just wanted to go home. I knew going in it was a huge mistake, but there was nothing I could do. It was just worst case scenario all around. Didn't even get laid. It's bull . Cavs lost, I had to act like a bag, and I didn't even get some after the game. Complete bull
Plus, I got that bull after the game of "man Dan, that was a really good game" - no it wasn't, we just witnessed another Cleveland choke. How is that a good game?
A Message from the new girl Thunder Dan is seeing:
Burger King does not impress me. Do not take me there any more.
I'm also really a dude. That is all.
Screw it man! At least you guys are still playing and it's only one game that could have went either way. my team has been fishing a long time ago...It feels weird not watching the Spurs play this late in the playoffs though.
That's not as good as, "There's no way Orlando will shoot like that again!" and "There's no way Mo and Delonte will play that poorly again!" Every time Orlando beats the out of the Cavaliers, I have a dozen people telling me it won't happen again.
I really don't consider this a choke, though. And I've seen chokes. Jose Mesa- choke. 2005 Indians- choke. 2007 Indians- choke. Browns vs. Miami in the '85 Playoffs- choke. Browns vs. Denver in the '86 AFCCG- choke. Browns vs. Yinzers in the '02 Playoffs- choke.
This isn't a choke. This is just Cleveland's kryptonite. Orlando might as well have been designed for the express purpose of beating the Cavaliers. At this point I'd rather face the '96 Bulls.
No doubt. And I blame Eddie George. Him ing out against Ray Lewis the last time is what set everything in motion.
This year, Balt taking out CJ is what did them in.
Pfft, you guys actually should had still blew us out without him. I have never seen a team block our defense that good. Collins had all day to survey the field. You guys just kept screwing up in the red zone for whatever reason. If CJ had of been playing the whole game it would had been a blowout for you guys.
another thing people don't understand about Cleveland is that we have this complex built into us like we actually enjoy games last night in a sick way. We almost enjoy the stories about losing more than ones of winning. For most fans, if you rip on them about their team losing or choking, they get pissed about it- but Cleveland fans actually sorta like it. Most of them laugh when telling stories about failure. It's hard to understand, but we like to be known as chokers in some twisted way. Our iden y in sports isn't one of the 30 something markets that won a championship, or has a great team that won it all 10 years ago. The iden y we like is the stories about the Browns and Indians choking. That is why it would be weird if the Cavs won the le this year. It would change everything. Our iden y would be no different than any other town because we could no longer talk about the crazy choke jobs we talk about with some sort of pride. We talk about those stories like war stories we hold with pride: like "It was our team that blew the 1997 World Series in the bottom of the 9th"
But this is why Cleveland-area Ohio State fans take their recent run of failure so hard. For a long time, Ohio State football was the one exception to Cleveland failure. You could expect the Indians, Cavs and Browns to choke even when they were good, but if Ohio State was good, they were not prone to failure. But that changed in 2006, and that is why some Cleveland area fans (myself included until last year) couldn't take people ripping on the Buckeyes.
Dan, I feel your pain, for a split second, and then I laugh at you.
But hey, my team's been done for like a month. So, I can't really say . It's just sports, so brush it off. Still a long way to go in this series.
If for some crazy reason the Nuggets beat the Lakers, I'd like to see the Cavs get a Championsihip.
Not having any kind of championship in the city since the 60's and having to root for the Browns is pretty wrong.
why does everyone have a problem with the Browns? They are one of the most storied franchises in football. I know they suck now, but they aren't that bad. I mean they aren't the Bengals. Plus, having the Browns is arguably better than having no team at all. I mean we do have Brady Quinn.
Sure you can. Your team OWNS Orlando.
Come on, Dan. No team in professional sports has ed its fanbase over more in the last two decades and change than the Browns. Not one. Not even the Cubs. The Cubs at least didn't move out of town and get replaced by a ty expansion team cleverly disguised as the Cubs.
I barely consider this team the Browns anymore. To me they're more like the 1980's Buccaneers in orange helmets. I grew up watching the real Browns- Bernie, Kevin Mack, Clay Matthews, Mike Johnson, Dixon & Minnifield, and the man in my sig (RIP.)
Those teams didn't win anything. But they had the pride and majesty of a great franchise. This team has none of that. It's a weak, soft, punching bag. They're like the kid in Pet Semetary, after he gets "brought back to life." He looks the same, but he isn't. Just like this team.
The only problem with the storied Browns is that their story ended in 1964.
And sure, there were some great teams that didn't win anything but they were also from a few decades ago.
I know. I detached myself from sports after Florida kicked Ohio States ass in 2006. I used to make the classic immature mistake of getting too emotionally involved in my team. I was like the classic fan or I was seeing my worth though the achievements of my team. Everyone knows these people as there are many on this board. They think they are awesome because the team they root for beat the team you root for. That ended for me in 2006.
For example. If I were 20 year old last night, I would still be pissed, very upset and unconsoleable. But last night after the game, while I was at the bar, I was more interested in what was going to happen with this girl when we left. I was trying to play out how I was going to make a move, and how quickly I would have to do it because we both had to work the next morning. It turns out I failed on all levels, but that isn't the point, the point is if 20 year old Dan would have left her at the game and went home and would have been pissed at anyone that talked to him.
Thunder Dan,
I feel your pain. Before the 2000's, Boston sports teams were the same way. If Cleveland gets a run of success, that mindset will change, I promise.
You did have Bird, McHale and Parish, did you not?
to be honest, I don't really care about the Browns. I didn't have a team growing up because the Browns were not around when football was in the stream of consciousness. Ohio State was my pro team because my dad is a season ticket holder and I went to the games every Saturday. Still to this day I'm more of a Ohio State fan than a Browns fan. I went to Ohio State for 1 semester, and have a degree from Kent State- but I still root for Ohio State when they play Kent (very Ohio). I only went to one Browns game when I was little and it was the last game at the stadium
I was actually somewhat of a Lions fan growing up because I liked Barry Sanders. But in 1997 my mom got remarried to my stepdad who happened to play 13 years for the Browns during the late 60's-80s. So I ended up going to a bunch of games and functions with them which made me a fan of them. But the Indians and Ohio State football are my first loves, I can claim to be that emotionally invested in the Browns.
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