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  • bin Laden dead, WTC 7 a controlled demolition

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  • bin Laden alive, WTC 7 a controlled demolition

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  • bin Laden dead, WTC 7 not a controlled demolition

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  1. #1
    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    New David Ray Griffin Book: Osama bin Laden, Dead or Alive?

    The US’s political discourse and foreign policy in recent years has been based on the assumption that Osama bin Laden is still alive. George W. Bush promised as president that he would get Osama bin Laden “dead or alive” and has been widely criticized for failing to do so. The US’s present military escalation in Afghanistan is said to be necessary to “get Osama bin Laden.” The news media regularly announce the appearance of new “messages from bin Laden.” But what if Osama bin Laden died in December 2001—which is the last time a message to or from him was intercepted?

    In this book, David Ray Griffin examines the evidence for the claim—made by everyone from former CIA agent Robert Baer to Oliver North—that bin Laden is surely no longer with us. He analyzes the purported messages from bin Laden and finds that, as many have suspected, they do not provide evidence of bin Laden’s existence after 2001. This leads naturally to the question: if Osama bin Laden did indeed die in 2001, how and why have dozens of “messages from bin Laden” appeared since then?

    Griffin’s meticulous analysis supports above all one simple and urgent conclusion: if Osama bin Laden is dead, the US should not be using its troops and treasure to hunt him down.

    David Ray Griffin has published 35 books on philosophy, religion, and politics. His most recent book, The New Pearl Harbor Revisited, was a Publishers Weekly “Pick of the Week” in 2008.

    READ MORE:

    http://www.911blogger.com/node/20166

    ALSO COMING SOON FROM DR. DAVID RAY GRIFFIN:

    Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7, Why the Official Report about 9/11 is Unscientific and False

    http://www.interlinkbooks.com/produc...oducts_id=2130
    Last edited by Galileo; 05-21-2009 at 04:26 PM.

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    I think Bin Laden died many years ago. He asked to be killed and his body to be disposed of so that nobody will ever find it that way he can continue live in death bigger than he could ever live in life.

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    jack, either way he's livin large. he played bush for a sucker....and won.

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    jack, either way he's livin large. he played bush for a sucker....and won.
    Please tell us how Obama played Bush for a sucker.This should be interesting.

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    if he's dead....he died from laughter.

    he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.

    bush was a sucker.






    by the way......his name is osama......not obama.

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    if he's dead....he died from laughter.

    he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.

    bush was a sucker.






    by the way......his name is osama......not obama.
    If he's dead, he's been dead far too long to have ever witnessed any of this...

    I think he's been dead since November 2001. But, that's just me...and, I've been contradicted on this by the Bush administration, the CIA, and numerous other en ies...

    But, I've never been contradicted on this by any live appearance by Osama bin Laden since we bombed the out of Tora Bora in November of 2001. Personally, I think he's greasing the very tiny space between two boulders in a collapsed cave on one of those mountainsides.

    When they ran out of stock video footage of him wandering the Afghanistan hills, they started sending audio. When they ran out of that, they recycled audio. Now, every now and then, we get more audio...that is promptly certified to be authentic Osama bin Laden words.

    If that er's alive -- and, if he was alive after November 2001, we'd of seen him in a video that proved it definitively...He was too much of an attention hound to resist the temptation. He's the Chuck Schumer of terrorism.

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    Veteran jack sommerset's Avatar
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    if he's dead....he died from laughter.

    he got bush to lie his way into iraq, devide the country, and ignore the taliban....and the bonus of watching our financial system crumble under W's feet.

    bush was a sucker.






    by the way......his name is osama......not obama.
    My bad. Not interesting at all.

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    Veteran jack sommerset's Avatar
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    If he's dead, he's been dead far too long to have ever witnessed any of this...

    I think he's been dead since November 2001. But, that's just me...and, I've been contradicted on this by the Bush administration, the CIA, and numerous other en ies...

    But, I've never been contradicted on this by any live appearance by Osama bin Laden since we bombed the out of Tora Bora in November of 2001. Personally, I think he's greasing the very tiny space between two boulders in a collapsed cave on one of those mountainsides.

    When they ran out of stock video footage of him wandering the Afghanistan hills, they started sending audio. When they ran out of that, they recycled audio. Now, every now and then, we get more audio...that is promptly certified to be authentic Osama bin Laden words.

    If that er's alive -- and, if he was alive after November 2001, we'd of seen him in a video that proved it definitively...He was too much of an attention hound to resist the temptation. He's the Chuck Schumer of terrorism.
    No pics or videos of him makes no sense to me either. He has to be dead.

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    bush said he'd get him......then he said "eh, i don't really care".

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    bush said he'd get him......then he said "eh, i don't really care".
    Maybe he knew something.

    Besides, you're taking his comment out of context...and, that's fine. He could have stated it better. He could have stated a bunch of things better.

    I'm just glad his policy-making was sharper than his extemporaneous speaking skills.

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    bin Laden is dead.

    FACT

    While the 9/11 attacks were happening, George Bush Senior and bin Laden's brother were meeting in the Whitehouse with defense contractors.

    FACT

    The night before John Hinckley, Jr. shot Ronald Reagan, VP George Bush had dinner with John Hinckley's brother.

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    the colors have convinced me.

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    Maybe he knew something.
    So you're calling Bush a liar.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    So you're calling Bush a liar.
    Nope.

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    So you're calling Bush a liar.
    I see the chumper got his vote in.

    Where is the rest of the crew?


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    Of course you did.

    That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.

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    Student of Liberty Galileo's Avatar
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    Of course you did.

    That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.
    Bush is a big fat liar, with his nose as long as a telephone wire.

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    Of course you did.

    That beeping sound is you backing up now that you realized what you did.
    What's the lie?

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    You don't have to play dumb, yoni -- you're already there.

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    I see the chumper got his vote in.

    Where is the rest of the crew?

    Actually my vote is "Griffin is a valve."

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    You don't have to play dumb, yoni -- you're already there.
    Seriously, what's the lie? Or, are you just into word games again...

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    Seriously, what's the lie? Or, are you just into word games again...
    He doesn't know.

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    Nah, I'm sure it's based on my stating, "Maybe he knew something," or, he inferring a lie where I said the Bush administration contradicted my belief bin Laden was dead.

    I'm only guessing though. After all, who knows what lurks in the mind of ChumpDumper?

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    Yoni even restates it and still can't figure out what he posted.

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