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he can suck at shooting and get 16 ft. sounds good to me
I think so. The guy is ridiculously under-rated.
he can suck at shooting and get 16 ft. sounds good to me
How about Fisher? Top 350?
Fisher was good back in the day but he's past his expiration date by about 3 years.
The refs sure think he's top 3.
Parker, Williams, Billups my new top 3
Paul on his way out considering he doesn't get it done in the playoffs. (Jannero Pargo, 40% shooting v Nuggets, etc).
chauncy is not a top 3
he is a vet with a leadership period
he should be a coach
^This^
It depends what you base it on. Physical talents like speed and quickness, fancy dribbling, and natural play-making ability, he wouldn't be top 3. He's not the most explosive scorer at the point guard position and he's not the best passer or play-maker at the point guard position.
But, if you talk about putting everything together, particularly the intangibles of the point guard position, such as controlling tempo, directing the defense, ball and shot distribution, leadership, clutch shot making, there's definitely an argument for Chauncey. If you're talking about playing and mastering the point guard position, Chauncey has a very strong case.
i'm talking the second paragraph. the true PG. not an undersized scoring guard. i'm talking a guy who runs the offense. who passes first, but scores when necessary. and a guy who defends. and a guy who leads his team.
Parker, CP3, D-Will...
If at the beginning of the season, the Nuggets traded for one of those guys, would they have made the same transformation into the team they are now as a legitimate le contending team?
The only one of those three that I can seriously imagine the same thing happening is Deron Williams. Chris Paul wouldn't have helped transformed the defense. And, Tony Parker doesn't change the iden y of the team the way Billups did. That said, all three of those guys are better "players" than Chauncey Billups in terms of talent. In terms of playing the point guard position, I think it's a very legit argument that Chauncey edges each of those guys out.
The thing I respect about Billups is that he doesn't waste motion; he doesn't dribble, drive, shoot, etc. without purpose and if he can get someone in the air on a pump-fake, he's DEFINITLY going to find his way to the line. Maybe all the calls he got weren't legit, but the guy almost forces refs to blow the whistle.
this. excellent post
top 3 no, top 4 yes
The thing that stands out about Billups is his ability to understand the moments in a game. Every time the Nuggets seem a bit out of synch, out of rhythm, he is the one that makes a play. He is not as strong or as explosive as he was a couple of years back but he can still bully his way to the free throw line against almost any PG. That is what separates him from the others at this moment.
Also, he is probably the best shooter at the PG position, with Nash being the only compe ion I can think of. Yet, just like Nash, he seems to save his shots for the "daggers".
Also, compared to the other three he is probably the best defender as well.
So yes, there definetely is an argumet for Billups being not only in the top 3, but maybe higher.
Ill be honest, i didnt think Billups was this good. I always thought he was a little over rated - really really good player, but slightly over rated.
But the way he has almost single handedly transformed an entire franchise, and the way hes played in the playoffs throughout his entire career - the guy is a flat out star, and should be mentioned with the best PG's in the league.
In terms of his ranking, i still think hes 4th behind Paul, Williams and Parker, but JamStone makes a good point - taking one of those three guys instead of Billups doesnt necessarily mean your team will be better every time.
Billups was the better fit for Denver, but I'd still place him at #4.
The Spurs would be playing the west finals with Billups as the starting PG…. that’s not even a question.
I think CB is a well rounded PG. But Deron Williams does almost everything CB does, but better. All he needs is to get rid of Booz, and maybe Jerry, and he will be able to take a team on his back, the way an NBA PG should...
Instead of TP, or next to him?
I must confess I am gay for Billups.
williams can't defend for .
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