The fickleness of spurs fans nowadays is unbelievable.. its almost as if you all have taken on the personality of Popovich himself. You expect absolute perfection out of a certain players, unless their name happens to be Bonner, Jacque Vaughn, Michael Finley, then pretty much you can do no wrong.
I guarantee had Pietrus been signed by the spurs he would have helped slow down Josh Howard in the mavs series (nobody on spurs could do it and he was even hurt)
Oh, and you all would have been loving him if he'd set the same type of pick on Howard / Dirk as the one he set on Varejao. That was a big-time momentum changing play.
Last edited by TJastal; 05-21-2009 at 07:02 PM.
JR Smith is a dumb person, but Pietrus is a dumb basketball player. JR Smith is like at least 5 times the player that Pietrus is. That being said, I won't be riding in a car with him anytime soon, just like I won't be signing Pietrus to a basketball contract very soon.
See? Fickleness at its finest on cue.
pietrus is a better defender, way more athletic, younger, than Mason. The only thing Mason has on him is shooting. Both are average passers. I don't know who I rather have? But Pietrus has hit big shots for the magic in the Playoffs. Mason on the other hand??? nuf said! Probably Pietrus, and plus he will be a guy TP would be looking over his shoulder to throw alley oops to.
i don't personally see bad BBall IQ from him ... he's better than Mason by a long shot on defense an does pretty much what Mason does on offense (shoot 3's) and he can also slash... and there is a ton of basketball players that have hurt the Spurs over the years that have low BBall IQ - Bonzi Wells , Lamar Odom , Amare Stoudamire to name a few ... and besides , low BBall IQ can be disguised better or negated if the player whose BBall IQ is in question has a niche or clearly defined role on the team he plays for that accentuates is strengths ... which is exactly what the situation is/was not like in Golden State for the most part with Nelson as coach . he was completely out of his element on that team and that helter-skelter system . that is an unfair situation to judge him in ... now he totally knows his role and fits it on the Magic , and he's showing his true worth because of it .
Last edited by mingus; 05-21-2009 at 08:58 PM.
Maybe.
But he is still major upgrade over Bonner, Findog, Udoka and JV
I want Finley and Vaughn GONE, and Bonner banished to the bench. Is that un-fickle enough for you?See? Fickleness at its finest on cue.
None of that changes the fact that Pietrus is as dumb as his namesake,the rock.
I have no clue about Pietrus' BBIQ and unless anyone has followed him closely during his stints with both GS and Orlando, I don't know how anyone else would either.
All I know is his level of defensive skill and offensive production exceeds what the Spurs have gotten from any player they currently have at the SF position.
No player is perfect and I'd have to think that whatever flaws there may be in Pietrus' game, he could certainly be coached up. Besides the Spurs have one of the best coaches in the NBA. Unless Pop wanted him to split time as a backup PG, I see no reason why Pietrus could not have worked on this roster. Especially considering the fact that the SF position is probably the weakest position on the team.
I agree. With the right coaching, any defect he has could be corrected and even be made into strengths. As long as he has his head screwed on right, no reason why he couldn't contribute with his size and athletic ability.
Coaching? Is that all it takes? Answer me one question then: why isn't every player on the Lakers as good as Kobe? They all have the same coach, don't they?
And you must think the Finley/Udoka/Bowen triumverate was a far more effective answer for the SF position?
You have to have skill too. Coaching is to help with IQ. You can't coach athleticism or God given abilities. You can, however, coach the IQ. How to rotate, where to rotate, things of that nature.
I with you senor. I mentioned him before. He forced lebron into tough shots and he rebounds and adds some offense. He is A utility guy. He is A no brainer. Well in the sense that our Fo had no brains to go get him
I feel ya. To me, based upon the deficiencies we've had and still have at the SF slot versus how this kid is producing for the Magic, nabbing him this past summer or even the year before, as an possible replacement, was an absolute no-brainer. Just sayin'.I with you senor. I mentioned him before. He forced lebron into tough shots and he rebounds and adds some offense. He is A utility guy. He is A no brainer. Well in the sense that our Fo had no brains to go get him
For those that want to continue this discussion of BBIQ, how much BBIQ did it require to know that you DO NOT foul Dirk for an and-1, when your team in up 3, in a Game 7 of the WCSF in 2006? Just sayin' - again. Marinate on that.
Pietrus on the Spurs would be a role player. A defensive specialist who has 3-point range. Sound familiar? But someone more athletic and physical than Bowen. Not as crafty and cunning as BB in all probability but the raw material is there.. no one is asking him to be Kobe or LeBron.
he would be a HUGE upgrade over what we have now.
alot of good all that 'BBIQ' did for our fossils this year....
I think the only thing that we can agree on is that we don't want this same team back! I hope that Pop swallows his pride and does two things.
1. Get and play young players - A FREAKIN CENTER AND PLAY HIM........
2. Hire a coach for Offense
Pietrus would be a better option than Mason.
I still prefer D instead of O. And Mason offense in the playoffs was MIA and his D pathetic
Pietrus has definitely proven his value in the playoffs to the Magic and has fought through a hand injury to do so....commendable.
Mase's defense seemed to take a dive after the Laker game at home for some reason and his offense wasn't much better in the playoffs. That said, I look forward to him coming back and having a strong year next season having more cohesion with his teammates and a better understanding of his role.
Maybe PJ will be back..
hey if you look at his face, doesnt he look like 50cent
i would prefer pietrus now just because he plays much better defense than mason and can guard SFs.
Ya...his BBIQ isn't good enough. He wouldnt be able to contribute.
Tell me about it. Yeah, he really looks "dumb as a rock" out there, with his perimeter shooting, grabbing rebounds, playing defense, and blocking shots.Ya...his BBIQ isn't good enough. He wouldnt be able to contribute.
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