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Plus you also have to put CP3 up there with those 3.
I'm not convinced with Melo' yet. He's talented, a good shooter, and has good size physically, and clutch, but he's missing something that Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Duncan, even Chris Paul have.
I don't see him as a leader or the player that commands attention, and team focus. The way he was pissed on the bench reminded me of a kid, not a compe or...there's something about him mentally that seems to keep him perpetually the same player that threw his bronze medal into a riverregardless of the squad changes.
Without Chauncey, Carmelo's Nuggets are just another first round exit....
Plus you also have to put CP3 up there with those 3.
1st the Spurs were the best team in the West that season record wise. Dallas went on the be the West champs. So following you logic we should discount what Kobe did during the Lakers 3 peat. And we should discount this season because he has Gasol,Fisher,Odom and Ariza.
I agree, it's at ude. The environment under George Karl is stunting his growth as a player...for instance, in anecdote by Karl, whenever he'd use coaching terminology or some old phrase akin to "shuttle " or something his players would "teehee" about it and giggle. like that.
I can only imagine it got a little better with the arrival of Chauncey in the lockerroom and the exit of "practice fiend" A.I.
2003-04 the rookie Wade carried the Heat into the 2nd round and 6 games with the 60 win Pacers. Who was his starting center? An undersized Brian Grant.
How much better would Kobe or LeBron have done this year with a rebuilding team with a rookie starter at point(2nd round pick)?
Well Boobie started for sometime in his rookie year.
I still can't beleive the Pistons allowed him to score 25 straight. What a performance. And his shot last night saved the Cav's season.
Yeh I don't know what that has to do with Boobie starting. However, I was thinking Cavs could get swept if they lose but that shot has given me confidence.
Top 3 players:
1. Dirk Nowitzki
2. Lebron James
3. Kobe Bryant
Kidd is the teacher in this class.
Carmelo is obviously not in the same class the way he picks up fouls. Kobe, Lebron can do whatever the whole game and pick up an occasional foul but usually never have to take a seat. Talent-wise, however, he's right up there.
Carmelo's one of my favorite players, but he's not on Kobe/LeBron's level.
Tough luck for Melo, he had a godly start to the series. Olympic experience was really great for him, too bad he's not a Laker.
Melo isn't even that good.
Agreed.
Lebron is a better player than Kobe at this stage of their careers, though. Even still, Lebron and Kobe are in a class of their own.
NO melo is not there ...
It's Kobe/Lebron .....Duncan/Wade top shelf
2nd shelf = Melo, KG, Pierce, DWill, CP3 Dwight
We don't need that chump, we've got Ariza! At least for two more weeksI think he'll be back though.
Wade is better than LeCrabTravel Bronze period...
Both Wade and Anthony are more fundamentally sound that James. However, none of them are at Bryant's level yet - ask this question again in about 4-5 years.
Neither Wade nor Melo are on the same level as Lebron. As for Kobe, he is not too anymore. He was, that's important to mention.
I totally agree, for awhile there, he was stuck at LeBron's level but Kobe has really elevated his game and he's now a more complete team player.
The Ring is there for Kobe; unfortunately, LeBron probably can't get past ECF, too bad. I really wanted to see Kobe/LeBron Finals.
No LBJ doesn't dissapear, and Kobe only occasionally quites. Melo isn't there yet.
Melo finally is getting together, his offensive talent is on par with those guys, he'll be on that level really soon.
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