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    here jack i'll help you:


    lie1  /laɪ/ Show Spelled [lahy] Show IPA noun, verb, lied, ly⋅ing.
    –noun
    1.a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
    2.something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
    3.an inaccurate or false statement.

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    jack you called him the biggest liar in your 37 yrs. i figured you would be ready to show a dumb kool aid drinker like me what a liar he is. so tell me...

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    jack you called him the biggest liar in your 37 yrs. i figured you would be ready to show a dumb kool aid drinker like me what a liar he is. so tell me...
    This is getting weird. Again, just scroll up and there are a few in this thread alone. You need something to do, um start with no earmarks. Below was in just about every paper,political website and network T.V.

    President-elect Barack Obama warned that he will inherit a $1 trillion budget deficit upon taking office, and pledged to ban all earmarks as an attempt to address both the "deficit of dollars and the deficit of trust.'

    "We're going to have to stop talking about budget reform. We're going to have to fully embrace it," he said after a meeting with his economic team this morning. "It's an absolute necessity."

    He has over 8,000 of them in the bill and probably more important congress is saying they don't know where all the money is going.

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    are you stating that biased blogs/websitesb aren't legit? Are you telling us that biased sites should not be considered as credible? Or just left wing ones? Or are you just a hypocrite?
    In general, no. I make an exception with Common Dreams. When so many things are used out of context and the truth misrepresented, yes. Both these guys are prolific authors to what I have seen as one of the biggest propaganda sites alive. You ever sit and read the articles in Common Dreams?
    I have never seen any article come from those who are prolific authors for Common Dreams, be accurate, when it comes to the people in President Bush's administration. They distort the truth so far, it becomes a lie. When I see such articles from such people, I need their assertions proven.

    I will ignore things coming from Common Dreams, and the prolific writers of that cyber rag. I'm not saying I will disregard all contribution authors of Common Dreams, just those who are as prolific. It's an organization with an agenda and doesn't care about fact. They print anything that supports the left.

    Search: Jonathan S. Landay in Common Dreams, 183 hits.

    Search: Warren P. Strobel in Common Dreams, 136 hits.

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    So you can't refute anything in the article.

    Thanks.

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    right-wing/neo-c*nt/WC agendas, ok.

    everybody else's agendas, illegit.

    WC's a ing lazy hypocrite.

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    Now you're not making sense. Besides if cheney is so unuseful, why is obama responding towards cheney's accusations, and why is obama basically reimplementing his plans.

    The past election is the past election, the electorate is fickle, you defend in what you believe regardless of how popular you or the issue is. The republican party doesn't need nutless wonders like Marcus "Razed and Glazed" Bryant.
    Obama would love nothing more than for the GOP spokesman to be Cheney. Duh.

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    So you can't refute anything in the article.

    Thanks.
    Yes I can. Some of the things, we covered before. Have you forgotten? I don't have the time to go over stuff we covered in the past.

    Would you stop being a for once in your life?

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    This is getting weird. Again, just scroll up and there are a few in this thread alone. You need something to do, um start with no earmarks. Below was in just about every paper,political website and network T.V.

    President-elect Barack Obama warned that he will inherit a $1 trillion budget deficit upon taking office, and pledged to ban all earmarks as an attempt to address both the "deficit of dollars and the deficit of trust.'

    "We're going to have to stop talking about budget reform. We're going to have to fully embrace it," he said after a meeting with his economic team this morning. "It's an absolute necessity."

    He has over 8,000 of them in the bill and probably more important congress is saying they don't know where all the money is going.
    jack will you provide the link? Seems that I find quite a few sources stating Obama intends to reform the earmark process and not end it. I bet my sources will out number yours 10 to 1. With that being said, what other lies has he said to make him the biggest liar in 37 yrs?

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    jack will you provide the link? Seems that I find quite a few sources stating Obama intends to reform the earmark process and not end it. I bet my sources will out number yours 10 to 1. With that being said, what other lies has he said to make him the biggest liar in 37 yrs?
    hahaha. Goggle it u lazy . Why on earth do you need a link? Did you live is a cage the past year? I swear. If you can't get past "NO EARMARKS" and it turns out there are over 8,000, I can't have a conversation with you. It's silly. You can tell me why he lied. But you can't deny thats what he promised.

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    hahaha. Goggle it u lazy . Why on earth do you need a link? Did you live is a cage the past year? I swear. If you can't get past "NO EARMARKS" and it turns out there are over 8,000, I can't have a conversation with you. It's silly. You can tell me why he lied. But you can't deny thats what he promised.
    Ok apparently you are going to play stupid again:

    "I have been consistently in favor of more disclosure around earmarks. Now, keep in mind a lot of these are worthy projects in our states, and I have actively pursued projects that I think are important. But I want to make sure that they're not done in the dark of night, that they're not done in committee, that everybody stands up and says this is the kind of spending that I think is important."


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    "We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress' seniority, rather than the merit of the project. We can no longer accept an earmarks process that has become so complicated to navigate that a municipality or nonprofit group has to hire high-priced D.C. lobbyists to do it. And we can no longer accept an earmarks process in which many of the projects being funded fail to address the real needs of our country."


    Well, look, I think that we do have a disagreement about an across-the-board spending freeze. It sounds good. It's proposed periodically. It doesn't happen.

    And, in fact, an across-the-board spending freeze is a hatchet, and we do need a scalpel, because there are some programs that don't work at all. There are some programs that are underfunded. And I want to make sure that we are focused on those programs that work.

    Now, Sen. McCain talks a lot about earmarks. That's one of the centerpieces of his campaign.

    Earmarks account for 0.5 percent of the total federal budget. There's no doubt that the system needs reform and there are a lot of screwy things that we end up spending money on, and they need to be eliminated. But it's not going to solve the problem.

    Since you have indictated that there is no need to back up what you post I decided to educate you.

    Your welcome and apology accepted.

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    All you did was prove there are earmarks.

    I left a video for you. You should watch the whole thing but if you want go to the 2:15 mark. "ban ALL earmarks" u will see and hear Obama say the words urself. When you have 8,000 of them, that makes you a liar. Continue to make up excuses for him.


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    All you did was prove there are earmarks.

    I left a video for you. You should watch the whole thing but if you want go to the 2:15 mark. "ban ALL earmarks" u will see and hear Obama say the words urself. When you have 8,000 of them, that makes you a liar. Continue to make up excuses for him.


    so now we have im saying both things. doesn't make him a liar but it does make him a politician..wait a minute you do know that politicians dance around issues don't you? don't worry jack put your head back in the sand..let the big people talk about the issues..

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    So jack what else has obama lied about to make him the biggest one in your 37 yrs..

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    so now we have im saying both things. doesn't make him a liar but it does make him a politician..wait a minute you do know that politicians dance around issues don't you? don't worry jack put your head back in the sand..let the big people talk about the issues..
    Dance around issues. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You crack me UP!!!!!!! "let the big people talk" You may want to leave if you mean that!

    Obama did not dance around a issue. He said "BAN ALL EARMARKS." You do know what the word ban means? 3 little words. Think about it. I know u are doing ur best to defend this guy but u continue to look like a fool defending this subject. The guy lied. And guess what? He lied much,much,much more!

    "so now we have him saying both things" hahahahahaha. That means atleast one is a lie.............. U are ing funny.

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    We'll have to see what happens with the earmarks for the next budget. One can only use the "old business" argument once.

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    Dance around issues. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You crack me UP!!!!!!! "let the big people talk" You may want to leave if you mean that!

    Obama did not dance around a issue. He said "BAN ALL EARMARKS." You do know what the word ban means? 3 little words. Think about it. I know u are doing ur best to defend this guy but u continue to look like a fool defending this subject. The guy lied. And guess what? He lied much,much,much more!

    "so now we have him saying both things" hahahahahaha. That means atleast one is a lie.............. U are ing funny.
    Jack he said both.... so which one is a lie? What about the other lies jack. let's hear about those..

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    We'll have to see what happens with the earmarks for the next budget. One can only use the "old business" argument once.
    That's my thought exactly.

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    Jack he said both.... so which one is a lie? What about the other lies jack. let's hear about those..
    BAN ALL EARMARKS we know is a lie. Perhaps another time for his other lies. Good day to you George.

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    IN MY OPINION BAN ALL EARMARKS we know is a lie. Perhaps another time for his other lies. Good day to you George.
    there i fixed it for you jack. you and i both know that you have no other examples so i don't blame you from running away. you can't back up your original claim so not only are you lying you are a coward. good day skippy..

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    there i fixed it for you jack. you and i both know that you have no other examples so i don't blame you from running away. you can't back up your original claim so not only are you lying you are a coward. good day skippy..
    HAHA. Son, noone is running away. It's Memorial Day! Hamburgers,Hot Dogs and Beers. Spending sometime with the family/friends. A few of us have enjoyed ur ignorance. Even the democrats here think you are a ing moron but laughed. I have been here for years and I'll be back later. "Coward" too funny!!!

    I already backed up what I said. I even gave you a video. Rememeber the video stupid. He said "ban all earmarks" I can't help that you are so ing stupid you don't get it. There is nothing to explain to you anymore about this subject. You are in complete denial mode.You may need some help. But I don't know what kind. You like to call me names because you can't back up what you say. That's ok son. My feelings are not hurt.

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    HAHA. Son, noone is running away. It's Memorial Day! Hamburgers,Hot Dogs and Beers. Spending sometime with the family/friends. A few of us have enjoyed ur ignorance. Even the democrats here think you are a ing moron but laughed. I have been here for years and I'll be back later. "Coward" too funny!!!

    I already backed up what I said. I even gave you a video. Rememeber the video stupid. He said "ban all earmarks" I can't help that you are so ing stupid you don't get it. There is nothing to explain to you anymore about this subject. You are in complete denial mode.You may need some help. But I don't know what kind. You like to call me names because you can't back up what you say. That's ok son. My feelings are not hurt.
    so you don't have anything to back up calling him the biggest liar in your 37 yrs. it's ok jack go enjoy your hot dog...

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    Obama would love nothing more than for the GOP spokesman to be Cheney. Duh.
    Obama would love nothing more than to debate Cheney... oh wait. nm

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    Obama would love nothing more than for the GOP spokesman to be Cheney. Duh.

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    Here is his words over the Rev Wright.......

    FYI I know from reading ur post George Afro that it's ok for a politician to lie. Not in my book. I know you think when someone says two different statements and one being a lie, such as "ban all earmark" means it's not a lie. Not in my book. A lie is a lie.


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