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    Patrick Mills. Make it happen.
    Yeahhhh He needs to be more efficient though.
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    Alot of talk has been about Spurs wanting to move up in the draft and spending guaranteed money. The talk has been about us trading our expiring contract players to some team in need of cap relief......This is from DE:

    A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

    I would like to explore us either these two scenarios one we buy the Hornets pick straight out or two we trade one of our bigs Thomas/Oberto for Tyson Chandler and their first round pick.
    Either way if we get that pick here are my thoughts

    We desperately need a SF so picking at twenty one here are some names:
    Austin Daye
    Dejuan Summers
    Victor Claver
    Omri Casspi
    Damion James
    Danny Green

    So then we move on to our 37th pick which we won't have to trade if we do the buy out route. This position I think will go to finding a true PG.
    Sergio Llull
    Rodriguez Beaubuis
    Curtis Jerrels
    Nando De Colo

    Then the last two picks I think would be for some bigs our a Spurs type of player.
    Henk Norel
    Taj Gibson
    Chris Johnson
    Antonio Anderson

    So any of these player I would be very happy with:

    21st ..Victor Claver/Dejaun Summers/Omri Casspi

    37th..Sergio Llull/Wesley Mathews/Rogriguez Beabuis

    51st..Henk Norel/Taj Gibson

    53rd..Antonio Anderson/Chris Johnson

    Looking at these playes they will give us added depth at key position and depending who we pick I see two actualy on our team and two on our development league. The biggest concern that I have is we still need a true center so if the Tyson trade doesn't work I still think we need to get either Gorat or Bourousis

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    whats the chances of these draftees suiting up in the silver and black or being shipped away to europe to farm a few seasons?

    these guys better be doing something to make them stand out from the players we already have farming in europe atm to be selected on the roster

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    Giving up a talented PF scola was just plain stupid but giving up on a talented Center would just be CRAZY!

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    Alot of talk has been about Spurs wanting to move up in the draft and spending guaranteed money. The talk has been about us trading our expiring contract players to some team in need of cap relief......This is from DE:

    A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

    I would like to explore us either these two scenarios one we buy the Hornets pick straight out or two we trade one of our bigs Thomas/Oberto for Tyson Chandler and their first round pick.
    Either way if we get that pick here are my thoughts

    We desperately need a SF so picking at twenty one here are some names:
    Austin Daye
    Dejuan Summers
    Victor Claver
    Omri Casspi
    Damion James
    Danny Green

    So then we move on to our 37th pick which we won't have to trade if we do the buy out route. This position I think will go to finding a true PG.
    Sergio Llull
    Rodriguez Beaubuis
    Curtis Jerrels
    Nando De Colo

    Then the last two picks I think would be for some bigs our a Spurs type of player.
    Henk Norel
    Taj Gibson
    Chris Johnson
    Antonio Anderson

    So any of these player I would be very happy with:

    21st ..Victor Claver/Dejaun Summers/Omri Casspi

    37th..Sergio Llull/Wesley Mathews/Rogriguez Beabuis

    51st..Henk Norel/Taj Gibson

    53rd..Antonio Anderson/Chris Johnson

    Looking at these playes they will give us added depth at key position and depending who we pick I see two actualy on our team and two on our development league. The biggest concern that I have is we still need a true center so if the Tyson trade doesn't work I still think we need to get either Gorat or Bourousis
    i would hope cassipi,llull,green, and claver in this years draft i would hope claver stock would drop because of him signing overseas, and llull stock might drop for some dumb reason so we can get him late but bourousis would be my fit for our center

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    Alot of talk has been about Spurs wanting to move up in the draft and spending guaranteed money. The talk has been about us trading our expiring contract players to some team in need of cap relief......This is from DE:

    A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

    I would like to explore us either these two scenarios one we buy the Hornets pick straight out or two we trade one of our bigs Thomas/Oberto for Tyson Chandler and their first round pick.
    Either way if we get that pick here are my thoughts

    We desperately need a SF so picking at twenty one here are some names:
    Austin Daye
    Dejuan Summers
    Victor Claver
    Omri Casspi
    Damion James
    Danny Green

    So then we move on to our 37th pick which we won't have to trade if we do the buy out route. This position I think will go to finding a true PG.
    Sergio Llull
    Rodriguez Beaubuis
    Curtis Jerrels
    Nando De Colo

    Then the last two picks I think would be for some bigs our a Spurs type of player.
    Henk Norel
    Taj Gibson
    Chris Johnson
    Antonio Anderson

    So any of these player I would be very happy with:

    21st ..Victor Claver/Dejaun Summers/Omri Casspi

    37th..Sergio Llull/Wesley Mathews/Rogriguez Beabuis

    51st..Henk Norel/Taj Gibson

    53rd..Antonio Anderson/Chris Johnson

    Looking at these playes they will give us added depth at key position and depending who we pick I see two actualy on our team and two on our development league. The biggest concern that I have is we still need a true center so if the Tyson trade doesn't work I still think we need to get either Gorat or Bourousis

    We need Damion James!! Ive said it before in the think/thank. That guy has potential! I hope we can get him.

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    Alot of talk has been about Spurs wanting to move up in the draft and spending guaranteed money. The talk has been about us trading our expiring contract players to some team in need of cap relief......This is from DE:

    A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).

    I would like to explore us either these two scenarios one we buy the Hornets pick straight out or two we trade one of our bigs Thomas/Oberto for Tyson Chandler and their first round pick.
    Either way if we get that pick here are my thoughts

    We desperately need a SF so picking at twenty one here are some names:
    Austin Daye
    Dejuan Summers
    Victor Claver
    Omri Casspi
    Damion James
    Danny Green

    So then we move on to our 37th pick which we won't have to trade if we do the buy out route. This position I think will go to finding a true PG.
    Sergio Llull
    Rodriguez Beaubuis
    Curtis Jerrels
    Nando De Colo

    Then the last two picks I think would be for some bigs our a Spurs type of player.
    Henk Norel
    Taj Gibson
    Chris Johnson
    Antonio Anderson

    So any of these player I would be very happy with:

    21st ..Victor Claver/Dejaun Summers/Omri Casspi

    37th..Sergio Llull/Wesley Mathews/Rogriguez Beabuis

    51st..Henk Norel/Taj Gibson

    53rd..Antonio Anderson/Chris Johnson

    Looking at these playes they will give us added depth at key position and depending who we pick I see two actualy on our team and two on our development league. The biggest concern that I have is we still need a true center so if the Tyson trade doesn't work I still think we need to get either Gorat or Bourousis

    I think that the trade for chandler would be great as well as having that 21st pick but wouldn't we have to match salaries? and are the hornets really shopping him?

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    I think that the trade for chandler would be great as well as having that 21st pick but wouldn't we have to match salaries? and are the hornets really shopping him?
    They almost gave him away for Chris Wilcox before the deadline.

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    Somehow I just can't see the Spurs utilizing any of their expiring contracts or spending cash to move up into the first round. They may have to in order to get a player they covet. Granted, I'd love for them to re-acquire their #25 pick back from the Thunder.

    Rather, I see the Spurs utilizing their minimal trade assets on acquiring a veteran player and hoping one for their favored picks falls to #37.

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    They almost gave him away for Chris Wilcox before the deadline.
    I know, as well as Joe Smith but see? They made salaries match since Chandler makes about 10 million right? If that's his salary then I dont see a way of us getting him. Anyway, I hope that if we move up in the draft is to draft someone who can contribute right away, similar to what George Hill did this year.

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    I think that the trade for chandler would be great as well as having that 21st pick but wouldn't we have to match salaries? and are the hornets really shopping him?
    ?? Why wouldn't they be shopping Chandler? They tried to to a straight salary dump at the deadline. New Orleans is in trouble, big trouble financially. The front of the line for Chandler will be teams that can offer salary relief immediately. That means non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed deals. Dallas has one of the best with Stackhouse's contract at $7.25M with a low buyout, somwhere between 1 and 2 million. Chandler just doesn't seem like their kind of player, though, and they already have one center on their roster making over $10M in Dampier. We'd be next with Bowen and Oberto's deals totalling $8M with $4M guaranteed. NOLA seems to like ex Spurs. We could ship them some more.

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    ?? Why wouldn't they be shopping Chandler? They tried to to a straight salary dump at the deadline. New Orleans is in trouble, big trouble financially. The front of the line for Chandler will be teams that can offer salary relief immediately. That means non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed deals. Dallas has one of the best with Stackhouse's contract at $7.25M with a low buyout, somwhere between 1 and 2 million. Chandler just doesn't seem like their kind of player, though, and they already have one center on their roster making over $10M in Dampier. We'd be next with Bowen and Oberto's deals totalling $8M with $4M guaranteed. NOLA seems to like ex Spurs. We could ship them some more.
    Jajaj I know but I think it was on the net on cnn the section of truth and rumours that said that maybe they would relief salary with somebody else or pay the luxury tax. Anyway it was like a month ago so I don't think it is still there. But yes, what you say makes sense. I hope the Spurs are considering it.

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    LLull and De Colo are not true point guards.

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    Jajaj I know but I think it was on the net on cnn the section of truth and rumours that said that maybe they would relief salary with somebody else or pay the luxury tax. Anyway it was like a month ago so I don't think it is still there. But yes, what you say makes sense. I hope the Spurs are considering it.
    Well, they'd LOVE to move Peja. Unfortunately, the market for soft jump shooting forwards who are constantly injured and making $14M is pretty limited to non-existant.

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    Well, they'd LOVE to move Peja. Unfortunately, the market for soft jump shooting forwards who are constantly injured and making $14M is pretty limited to non-existant.
    Jajaja oops my bad look I found what I was talking about, well perhaps we may acquire chandler.

    http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/nba?page=18

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    I just talked to one of my sources and as it turns out the NBA teams have several trades that are worked out before hand with different senarios that just never happen on draft day. Apperently the Spurs are always trading up and down and it just doesn't happen for one reason or another. For example, say the Spurs wanted player X. Team A is only willing to trade and draft player X for and to the Spurs if a couple things just fall the right way. So if the Magic really like Courtney Lee and not much else in the draft and Courtney Lee is drafted ahead of their pick the Spurs might could have offered something so they could get the Magic's pick to draft Batum. These kind of deals go down all the time, but more times than likely a team like the magic have 3 options for thier pick, and only if all 3 of those options are not avilable will they trade the pick to the Spurs, and the Spurs will only pull the trigger on this trade if the player (like Batum) is still avilable at the pick they were trading for.

    It is very complex and hard to keep up with, but the Spurs did it last year with Hairston and Dragic. The Suns like Dragic, but figured that someone would draft him in the time between pick 45 and 48, so the Spurs would only offer that 45th pick if the player they really wanted at 4 was not in the draft pool or they figured that the player they wanted to draft at 45 would still be in the pool at 48, and the Spurs get some bonus for protecting Dragic for the Suns. Like I said it is all complex.
    I had heard that they tried to trade up to like 15 or 16 in 2001 to get Parker, but Orlando wasn't having any of it at the time. Still butt hurt over Duncan would be my guess. It all worked out in the end as he dropped to the Spurs later in the round.

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    Yeah a 1st round pick so that Byron will let him on the bench !
    Fixed!

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    I had heard that they tried to trade up to like 15 or 16 in 2001 to get Parker, but Orlando wasn't having any of it at the time. Still butt hurt over Duncan would be my guess. It all worked out in the end as he dropped to the Spurs later in the round.
    Spurs also had an agreement with Utah (IIRC) that would have landed them Jameer Nelson but had it fall through when he got selected a pick or two before Utah's slot.

    I seem to remember it being Denver that originally selected Nelson, before a draft night trade with Orlando.

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    God knows the owner of pick #14 is always open to selling his pick.

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    God knows the owner of pick #14 is always open to selling his pick.


    As starved as PHX is for solid young rotation players, surely they can't be willing to sell this pick too.

    Right?

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