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Just stating the facts the blind Spur fans can't seem to see or at least acknowledge.
Laker fan whining about the Lebron hype makes me feel like there is some type of ulterior motive.
Just stating the facts the blind Spur fans can't seem to see or at least acknowledge.
You know what i have ing had enough of?
Laker fans complaining about calls.
Tim, manu and tony should all be getting more free throws than kobe or lebron.
What a load of the nba is.
So everyone else for complaining about the calls for their team, but let me go ahead and do the exact same thing for mine. Classic post.
lol LAKER FANS REALLY NEED TO SHUT THE UP. THIS GUY IS SAYING EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS. KOBE WENT OFF ON THE REFS AND THEY DID NOTHING. TOTAL BS.
You tell me why TP and Tim get less free throws than Kobe? Kobe takes more jumpers than both of them combined. Why was Tim always top 5 in free throws a few years ago and now he can't even get 1 free throw these days?
The NBA officiating is a joke and guys like Lebron and Kobe are benefiting from it the most.
Laker fans calling out Lebron and poor officiating need to think before they post.
this is like what? the 10th thread about lebrons hype? If you all hate the hype, why are you giving him even more attention by opening up 10 threads, about his hype!!!
If anything this series proves why Lebron is the best player in the league, his teammates have been exposed, they're nothing more than a bunch of scrubs, the fact that LJ made this team have the best record on the league during the regular season and got them to ECF in the PO shows just how good he is. Change Lebron for ANY other player (yes that includes Kobe and Wade) and the Cavs would have been eliminated long ago.
The man is averaging 42 pts 7 assts 7 rbds, 1.5 stls, 1.2 blks over 50 % shooting and people still question him?
Sure he isn't the best shooter to take over in the clutch but he still gets it done most of the times on his own way, not to mention that without him there wouldn't even be any crunch time.
If the Cavs lose this series it won't be because of Lebron.
Translation: "Kobe's thunder is being stolen"
Couldn't agree more
He is the best player in the entire planet nowadays...
LeBron did choke in crunch time though last night. Had several turnovers, missed free throws, and overall careless play late in the fourth quarter that cost his team. He's still the reason they were even in the game, but he also cost his team the game.
I don't know if it was him choking or him just getting tired and making dumb plays because of that mental tiredness.
No he choked when it mattered.
I'd say that was a good make-up call for the bull moving screen that Dwight Howard got away with to get Rashard Lewis open for the 3pt shot that preceeded it.
What cost his team the game was the ty play from his teammates throughout the entire game. Had they been hitting wide ing open shots that he consistently is setting them up with, they wouldn't have been in that position to begin with.
The guy was clearly gassed. To say he choked is completely ignorant. He hit the 2 FTs to send it to over time, as well as a monster 3pt shot to still give them a chance at the end of OT. The guy did everything he possibly could. Some of those turnovers weren't really a result of him ing up, as opposed to the fact that none of his teammates was getting defensive respect, so whenever he drove, he basically had 5 guys collapsing on him. If he passed the ball out on those situation, only for his teammates to brick them every time, then people would talk about him "being afraid to take the last shot." , people even said the same thing when he passed it to Delonte West for that GW shot that he made last year in the playoffs. Completely unfair criticism. Lebron simply needs a better team.
If it was Jordan in this situation, no one would say he choked. Everyone would give him the benefit of the doubt, that he did all he could, his teammates left him hanging, etc... Same applies for Lebron, Kobe, and whomever else would have been in this situation.
Saying that Lebron cost his team the game is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, especially when he is basically being forced to play 1-on-5.
2 on 5*, Delonte had a good game.
Nobody cares what Lakers fans think
Have to agree with this for the most part. He made some errors down the stretch, but that's what you expect from someone who is basically carrying him team. He rebounds, distributes and scores for his team, with Jason Terry Lite as his best teammate. 42.3/7.3/7.3 on 50% shooting. He's doing his part.
What's shocking though moreso than then inability to create offense IMO, is their complete inability to defend the PnR, penetration from perimeter players and most importantly, defending the three. I'd almost prefer they let Howard go 1-on-1 in the post, and getting big bodies to foul him.
Yes, their pick and roll defense has been terrible. I don't get why they keep going underneath the picks and allowing their 3 point shooters to get open. Maybe Dwight is just underrated as a pick setter, I dunno (although he sure got away with his share of moving picks last night, including the Rashard Lewis 3).
They need to just play everyone straight up... no doubling. Start Ben Wallace, and let Dwight Howard try to score 50 on you... that is, if he can do that without fouling out, considering the massive foul machine he is. That will benefit the Cavs even more, because once Howard gets in foul trouble, he plays almost as soft as Pau Gasol on defense. He becomes almost completely useless on the defensive end.
The LeBron hype is legitimate. The Cavs hype was the problem all year.
In the final four minutes of the fourth quarter, LeBron had three turnovers, missed a free throw, and missed a jumper with 21 seconds left that would have given the Cave the lead. In overtime, he had another three turnovers, four if you include the shot clock violation where he airballed a jumper but they got the offensive rebound. I have said LeBron is the best player in the league and his teammates do need to step up. But that does not mean he doesn't deserve criticism. He choked in crunchtime. I don't care if he's tired. It doesn't matter what the reason is. He choked.
And what is this bull about "if it was Jordan?" LeBron isn't Jordan. He hasn't won les yet. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt Jordan would get because he hasn't led his team to multiple les. What kind of bs argument is that?
I don't like the word choke.
It should be replaced with failed to execute down the stretch.
We obviously have different viewpoints on the word "choke". I consider choking to be when you have an ideal situation in which you should expect a player to succeed is presented, and they it up.
Having to play 1-on-5 is not an ideal situation in which you should expect any player to succeed. Not Jordan, not Duncan, not Kareem, not anybody. It's like bashing on Bruce Bowen for missing clutch FTs and saying hes a choker. no, that doesn't mean he's a choker. He simply is not a good FT shooter, and that is a situation you shouldn't expect him to succeed in. On the other hand, when you see him in the corner taking a three with 2 seconds on the clock, everyone would be scared ing less to see him take that shot.
And why did Jordan start winning les? BECAUSE HE FINALLY HAD A GOOD ING TEAM. When you look back at all the losses he had against Detroit and Boston... its not cuz he was a choker, even though he many times had crucial turnovers and missed shots. Its cuz he had to do EVERYTHING for his team that was incapable of doing ANYTHING. The same applies to Lebron. The guy has consistently carried his team, made clutch plays, and has them in le contention on a yearly basis now. But he needs some help. Imagine if he had Scottie Pippen insteand of Mo Williams down the stretch last night. I strongly doubt he gets forced into going 1-on-5, getting put into forced turnover situations. That doesn't make him a choker one bit, and is quite possibly one of the most ignorant things a good poster like yourself has ever said.
And that whole "he isn't above criticism" bit... I never disagreed with that one bit. But he doesn't deserve criticism as being the guy who lost the game for the Cavs last night. Ignorant as .
I think the word "choke" is appropriate here because I personally don't think most of his errors were due to being tired, they were mental errors. His bad passes, the offensive foul, most of the other turnovers. 6 turnovers in the final 9 minutes of a compe ive game by the best player in the league is and should be unacceptable. They weren't fatigue plays. Bad passes, mental lapses. That's choking.
If it were Kobe, if it were Jordan, they would have been and justifiably criticized similarly. Part of greatness is persevering through fatigue and other obstacles and still playing great. LeBron failed in that regard. I did say without LeBron the Cavs wouldn't even have been in the game. But, again, that doesn't absolve him for his play down the stretch. We are talking about the best player in the league. You can arguably blame a missed free throw on fatigue. You can't blame all 6 of his turnovers to fatigue. Great players play better than that in the same situation. And, when they don't, they will and should get criticized for it.
Cleveland wasn't a le contender before this year FWIW.
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