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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    what should happen to liars, Jack?

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    what should happen to liars, Jack?

    are you implying that obama should be removed?

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    are you implying that obama should be removed?
    you can answer for jack.... if you like.

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    you can answer for jack.... if you like.
    So you admitted that obama is a liar?

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    So you admitted that obama is a liar?
    i see you're starting to slip.....again.

    it's ok. we're all friends here. we'll give you a safe place to land.

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    i see you're starting to slip.....again.

    it's ok. we're all friends here. we'll give you a safe place to land.
    What does this have to do with you admitting Obama is a liar?

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    What does this have to do with you admitting Obama is a liar?
    oabama said he wanted to reform earmarks like 98 times and said he would ban them twice and jack calls him a liar. jack doesnt like obama if you havent figured it our yet

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    What does this have to do with you admitting Obama is a liar?
    so can we agree that any politician that says one thing and then says another is automatically a liar? I'm ok with that just as long as we all agree on the basic premise. Jack wont agree on the basic premise beause then all of his political heroes would be liars as well so he is in a bit of a quandry..

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    what should happen to liars, Jack?
    Depends on the lie and how often the person lies. I tell my kid Santa is real. Am I considered a liar and if so what should happen to me? Obama lies all the time. He should have never been elected president and the more I discuss with those who voted for him and why, the more I get sick to my stomach. You can read Afro's responses to me yourself. He is a great example. He says it ok for a politicain to lie. Then he says the guy had two different statements and as long as one of them is truthful it means the other is not a lie. That is sick.

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    Depends on the lie and how often the person lies. I tell my kid Santa is real. Am I considered a liar and if so what should happen to me? Obama lies all the time. He should have never been elected president and the more I discuss with those who voted for him and why, the more I get sick to my stomach. You can read Afro's responses to me yourself. He is a great example. He says it ok for a politicain to lie. Then he says the guy had two different statements and as long as one of them is truthful it means the other is not a lie. That is sick.
    I never stated it was ok rather that politicians speak out both sides of their mouth. What you want people to believe is that Obama is the first politician to ever do that.Is he?

    You stated he lies more than anyone else in your 37 yrs. When are you going to back that up? Or are you hoping I forget you made that statement?

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_207513.html

    General David Petraeus said this past weekend that President Obama's decision to close down Gitmo and end harsh interrogation techniques would benefit the United States in the broader war on terror.

    In an appearance on Radio Free Europe on Sunday, the man hailed by conservatives as the preeminent military figure of his generation left little room for doubt about where he stands on some of Obama's most contentious policies.

    "I think, on balance, that those moves help [us]," said the chief of U.S. Central Command. "In fact, I have long been on record as having testified and also in helping write doctrine for interrogation techniques that are completely in line with the Geneva Convention. And as a division commander in Iraq in the early days, we put out guidance very early on to make sure that our soldiers, in fact, knew that we needed to stay within those guidelines.

    "With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."


    Will Cheney go on the attack against Gen. Patraeus? I doubt it.

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_207513.html

    General David Petraeus said this past weekend that President Obama's decision to close down Gitmo and end harsh interrogation techniques would benefit the United States in the broader war on terror.

    In an appearance on Radio Free Europe on Sunday, the man hailed by conservatives as the preeminent military figure of his generation left little room for doubt about where he stands on some of Obama's most contentious policies.

    "I think, on balance, that those moves help [us]," said the chief of U.S. Central Command. "In fact, I have long been on record as having testified and also in helping write doctrine for interrogation techniques that are completely in line with the Geneva Convention. And as a division commander in Iraq in the early days, we put out guidance very early on to make sure that our soldiers, in fact, knew that we needed to stay within those guidelines.

    "With respect to Guantanamo," Petraeus added, "I think that the closure in a responsible manner, obviously one that is certainly being worked out now by the Department of Justice -- I talked to the Attorney General the other day [and] they have a very intensive effort ongoing to determine, indeed, what to do with the detainees who are left, how to deal with them in a legal way, and if continued incarceration is necessary -- again, how to take that forward. But doing that in a responsible manner, I think, sends an important message to the world, as does the commitment of the United States to observe the Geneva Convention when it comes to the treatment of detainees."


    Will Cheney go on the attack against Gen. Patraeus? I doubt it.
    He's an ourageous liberal who has made our country less safe..! Why does he hate cheney?

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    Will Cheney go on the attack against Gen. Patraeus? I doubt it.
    I bet not. "In a responsible manner" is the difference.

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