Bourousis Will Be Spurs Saviour

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Speaking of owning yourself.



Game recap tells another story. Key quote:

Olympiacos took a lead in the game's fifth minute and refused to let go of it when Tau rallied to within a point with 4 minutes to play.

http://www.euroleague.net/main/resul...asoncode=e2008

Seems like Bourousis' minutes were probably limited by the four fouls he ac ulated in less than 17 minutes.

From the game link posted

Back-to-back steals by Josh Childress and Theodoros Papaloukes ended up with Olympiacos scoring easy layups to raise its advantage to double digits, 23-32, soon after second quarter tipped off. Tau groped for answers as 2 free throws by Childress and a three-pointer by Greer pushed the Olympiacos lead to 12 points, 25-37, after 13 minutes. Tau coach Dusko Ivanovic called for an urgent timeout, but his team couldn’t find the balance on offense, spending more possessions without points. Olympiacos kept adding to its lead as Vasilopoulos and Vujcic scored to make it a 16-point game, 25-41, midway through the second period. Vlado Ilievski and Teletovic kept the hosts in the game as Olympiacos went through a short offensive crisis. Splitter hit a hook shot at 31-43 with 3 minutes left until halftime, but Halperin needed only one shot to restore the Reds at 31-46. Nerves took over at the home side, as Prigioni had to be benched after committing his second and third fouls in less than a minute before Pargo drilled another triple from the corner as Olympiacos skated into the break with a crowd-silencing 37-51 advantage.

Theo Papaloukas - OlympiacosMickeal kept leading Tau after the break, but his efforts had little return as Olympiacos found Vujcic and Papaloukas to run the show. A great assist by Papaloukas turned into a basket-plus-free throw for Childress that increased visitors’ margin to 41-58 after 24 minutes. The situation seemed to be critical for Tau, but Vidal emerged to hit back-to-back triples, followed by a short jumper in less than a minute to awake the home fans and reduce the gap to only 9 points, 49-58, forcing a timeout by Olympiacos. Another three-pointer, by Teletovic, made it a six-point game right after that, but Bourousis and Halperin quickly came to the rescue to restore the Reds' double-digit advantage at 52-63 after 27 minutes. Although the hosts looked ready to make a move, Olympiacos kept everything under control thanks to Vujcic, who was unstoppable in both the low and the high posts. Teletovic hit a high-bouncing triple to bring Tau within 60-67 entering the last minute, but Panagiotis Vasilopoulos replied with another bomb right after that. Will Mcdonald, with a buzzer-beater dunk, kept Tau within single digits at 62-70 after 30 minutes.

Once again LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES from some fans here. Olympiacos controlled the entire game and it was an easy win. Splitter and his team got their asses kicked badly. Olympiacos had some THIRD STRING players in. But now you are trying to make up a LIE that "Splitter dominated Bourousis" in this game.

[Mel_13]

You don't know WTF you are talking about. I watched this game. It was not a close game. And the fact is how players like Pargo and Vougioukas and Erceg were playing. Olympiacos had the game under control for most of game. And so what if TAU rallied? Wow they rallied and lost by 8 points.

The lead was 8 points entering the 4th quarter and TAU closed the gap to one point with 4 minutes left. I know European basketball is hard for Americans to understand, but that doesn't look like a game that had much garbage time. And you have now twice pointed to this supposed blowout as the reason that Pargo played. This additional quote from the recap indicates that Pargo STARTED:

Tau showed its will in the early going playing fast-tempo basketball, taking advantage of Tiago Splitter's activity in the paint. Despite Pargo opening fire for the visitors with a short fastbreak jumper, the Spaniards amassed a 7-2 lead

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The lead was 8 points entering the 4th quarter and TAU closed the gap to one point with 4 minutes left. I know European basketball is hard for Americans to understand, but that doesn't look like a game that had much garbage time. And you have now twice pointed to this supposed blowout as the reason that Pargo played. This additional quote from the recap indicates that Pargo STARTED:

Tau showed its will in the early going playing fast-tempo basketball, taking advantage of Tiago Splitter's activity in the paint. Despite Pargo opening fire for the visitors with a short fastbreak jumper, the Spaniards amassed a 7-2 lead

Are you crazy? Pargo had average of 11 minutes and even games where he did not even play at all from coach. And you can see his minutes in important games. 7, 4, 5, 11, 11, 3. He played 7 minutes in other game against TAU. He ONLY got good minutes in games that was not important or that were blow outs that is FACT.

http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...asoncode=e2008

So you know NOTHING about Euroleague and you are posting like an expert. Please do not make me laugh. The game was already a blow out and bench was in even in 2nd quarter. TAU made a little run, Boruousis and them came back and the game was over. STOP posting LIES.

And as you can see PARGO usually did not play. STOP POSTING LIES. This guy played 15 minutes in this game because it was a blow out. He would normally for sure NEVER play that many minutes in a big game against a team like TAU. The game was a blow out even in 2nd quarter so he did.

Once again FACTS =

http://www.euroleague.net/compe io...asoncode=e2008

LIES = some fans here telling BS to make Bourousis look bad and they know nothing about Euroleague but like to claim they are experts. Bruno and Mountainballer are the worst EVER.

[Mel_13]

And as you can see PARGO usually did not play. STOP POSTING LIES. This guy played 15 minutes in this game because it was a blow out. He would normally for sure NEVER play that many minutes in a big game against a team like TAU. The game was a blow out even in 2nd quarter so he did.

The game recap says that Pargo scored the first basket of the game, perhaps they are lying in the game recap. That would mean he STARTED THIS GAME. That would seem to be a fact. Perhaps the coach had a premonition of this supposed blowout and STARTED a player who usually only plays in garbage time. I really don't know why it happened, but it seems undeniable that Pargo was in the game long before the outcome was decided.

I am making no other claims about his overall level of play or how he was used by his team this season. I really could care less.

[Brazil]

at Mel trying to have a civilized argumented discussion with KBP

[Mel_13]

at Mel trying to have a civilized argumented discussion with KBP

For me it is the most effective way to expose hypocrisy.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

The game recap says that Pargo scored the first basket of the game, perhaps they are lying in the game recap. That would mean he STARTED THIS GAME. That would seem to be a fact. Perhaps the coach had a premonition of this supposed blowout and STARTED a player who usually only plays in garbage time. I really don't know why it happened, but it seems undeniable that Pargo was in the game long before the outcome was decided.

I am making no other claims about his overall level of play or how he was used by his team this season. I really could care less.

So a player that had whole games where he was benched and averaged 11 minutes is a key player? You are very foolish. He USUALLY STARTED and he averaged just 11 minutes.

Let me explain something Papaloukas ALWAYS COMES OFF THE BENCH.

HIS WHOLE CAREER HE COMES OFF THE BENCH

The player who averages starters minutes at point guard his WHOLE CAREER comes off the bench. You can join Bruno and Mountainballer as official FAKE European basketball experts.

[Mel_13]

So a player that had whole games where he was benched and averaged 11 minutes is a key player? You are very foolish. He USUALLY STARTED and he averaged just 11 minutes.

Let me explain something Papaloukas ALWAYS COMES OFF THE BENCH.

HIS WHOLE CAREER HE COMES OFF THE BENCH

The player who averages starters minutes at point guard his WHOLE CAREER comes off the bench. You can join Bruno and Mountainballer as official FAKE European basketball experts.

You are seeing things again. I did not say he was a key player or say anything at all about the basketball talent of Jannero Pargo. As I said, I could care less. I merely pointed out that his minutes in this game can not solely be accounted for by your supposed blowout. Some of his minutes are due to the fact that he started this game. This is not my opinion, just a simple fact.

It is also a fact that Bourousis committed 4 fouls in less than 17 minutes and this must partially account for his limited minutes. Most coaches, especially a great one like Giannakis, will sit a valuable player before he fouls out so he can use him in crunch time if needed. Again, the game recap seems to bear this out.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You are seeing things again. I did not say he was a key player or say anything at all about the basketball talent of Jannero Pargo. As I said, I could care less. I merely pointed out that his minutes in this game can not solely be accounted for by your supposed blowout. Some of his minutes are due to the fact that he started this game. This is not my opinion, just a simple fact.

It is also a fact that Bourousis committed 4 fouls in less than 17 minutes and this must partially account for his limited minutes. Most coaches, especially a great one like Giannakis, will sit a valuable player before he fouls out so he can use him in crunch time if needed. Again, the game recap seems to bear this out.

WRONG. Bourousis have intentional fouls at the end of the game. COMMON PRACTICE and used by almost every coach in Europe. STOP POSTING THINGS THAT NOT TRUE.

[Mel_13]

WRONG. Bourousis have intentional fouls at the end of the game. COMMON PRACTICE and used by almost every coach in Europe. STOP POSTING THINGS THAT NOT TRUE.

You'll understand if I doubt your claim without some sort of proof. If true, Bourousis' limited playing time in a game with playoff implications, and in which he was so effective on the offensive end, is quite curious.

[Ditty]

when is bourousis going to make his decision

i hope he comes and he dosent suck

beleive me he will help this team

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

You'll understand if I doubt your claim without some sort of proof. If true, Bourousis' limited playing time in a game with playoff implications, and in which he was so effective on the offensive end, is quite curious.

Can you read? It was already a blow out by 2nd quarter. CAN YOU GROW BRAIN? Bourousis averages 20 minutes for the year. In Olympiacos Splitter would get no more than that.

Olympiacos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>deeper team than TAU is. Especially in front court it is HUGE difference.

In normal game Vougioukas would not play. It was a blow out so he got to play. Bourousis otherwise would have played 21 minutes. If it was now a blow out. He AVERAGES 20. Stop pretending like Mountainballer and Bruno to know about European basketball. It is ruining this forum for when ANY European basketball discussion comes up. NBA only fans have made it 180 opposite in ALL facts of what is actually true about here and yet all the other NBA fans believe their lies and won't even listen to the actual truth about it anymore.

[my2sons]

I love how KBP goes from writing perfect english grammer full sentences to the ol' check guys on SNL, steve martin and dan akroyd...TWO WILD AND CRAZY GUYS...

[Mel_13]

Can you read? It was already a blow out by 2nd quarter. CAN YOU GROW BRAIN?

I can read, I just have a little more faith in the recap on euroleague.net than in your account. As to your last question all I can say is that unprovoked insults are indicative of a small mind and I will leave such unnecessary personal attacks to you..

[rayray2k8]

when is bourousis going to make his decision

i hope he comes and he dosent suck

beleive me he will help this team

^Drank KBP's koolaid.. He's not coming.. give it up already.
How can you support Horriboursis?
The most over hyped player of all time... Next to Ricky Rubio.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I love how KBP goes from writing perfect english grammer full sentences to the ol' check guys on SNL, steve martin and dan akroyd...TWO WILD AND CRAZY GUYS...

My English is far > your English.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I can read, I just have a little more faith in the recap on euroleague.net than in your account. As to your last question all I can say is that unprovoked insults are indicative of a small mind and I will leave such unnecessary personal attacks to you..

You are making up what the recap said. As I posted it BLOW OUT already in second quarter. 2nd and 3rd string players then came in. Somehow the fact that they ended up within single digits by end of game after all the time against minor role players you decide that it was a "close game". You may be biggest liar about European game in the forum. This is something to accomplish over Mountainballer and Bruno.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

^Drank KBP's koolaid.. He's not coming.. give it up already.
How can you support Horriboursis?
The most over hyped player of all time... Next to Ricky Rubio.

European contracts last through May 31 and go past this if season is still going. It is not May 31 and Olympiacos season is still going. So you do not know as usual WTF you are talking about. Bourousis has an offer from the Spurs and he cannot deal with it yet. So stop making up your endless nonsense please.

[rayray2k8]

mel13><KBP

You had him when you first replied. KBP just sucks at life and is taking it out on everyone.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

http://www.euroleague.net/main/resul...asoncode=e2008

Olympiacos saved its biggest performance of the Euroleague season so far the Top 16 finale, invading Vitoria, Spain to deal an 80-88 home loss to Tau Ceramica, thereby stealing first place in Group E and homecourt advantage in the Quarterfinal Playoffs. Olympiacos finished with a 5-1 record and will have three home games, if necessary, against Real Madrid in the best-of-five playoff series. Tau fell to 4-2 in Group E and now, without homecourt advantage, will face Group F winner Regal FC Barcelona in the next round. Olympiacos took a lead in the game's fifth minute and refused to let go of it when Tau rallied to within a point with 4 minutes to play. Theodoros Papaloukas and Giannis Bourousis combined for a quick 7 points then and Panagiotis Vasilopoulos buried a killer triple entering the final minute to ice the victory for Olympiacos. Nikola Vujcic led the winners with 17 points and 7 rebounds. Yotam Halperin added 16 points on 4-for-5 three-point shooting, while Bourousis and Jannero Pargo scored 11 each. Mirza Teletovic led Tau with 16 points, while Tiago Splitter had 15, Sergi Vidal 14, Pete Mickeal 13 and Pablo Prigioni 12.

Tiago Splitter - Tau CeramicaTau showed its will in the early going playing fast-tempo basketball, taking advantage of Tiago Splitter's activity in the paint. Despite Pargo opening fire for the visitors with a short fastbreak jumper, the Spaniards amassed a 7-2 lead behind 5 points in a row from the Brazilian center after 2 minutes. The Reds didn’t panic, however, as Nikola Vujcic and Nikos Boroussis took over for a 7-7 tie midway through the quarter. Tau's shooters didn’t find their momentum, missing even open shots, and Olympiacos took advantage to take its first lead, 7-10, after a three-pointer by Yotam Halperim. Vujcic kept rocking inside for Olympiacos, scoring 6 points in a row that extended the visitors' edge to 10-16 after 7 minutes. Tau tried to answer through Pablo Prigioni, who hit back-to-back triples to prevent the Reds from escaping, but Halperin showed up quickly to reply with a couple of bombs of his own, making it 18-26. Only free throws by Mirza Teletovic and a monster dunk by Splitter allowed Tau to get as close as 23-28 at the end of the quarter.

Back-to-back steals by Josh Childress and Theodoros Papaloukes ended up with Olympiacos scoring easy layups to raise its advantage to double digits, 23-32, soon after second quarter tipped off. Tau groped for answers as 2 free throws by Childress and a three-pointer by Greer pushed the Olympiacos lead to 12 points, 25-37, after 13 minutes. Tau coach Dusko Ivanovic called for an urgent timeout, but his team couldn’t find the balance on offense, spending more possessions without points. Olympiacos kept adding to its lead as Vasilopoulos and Vujcic scored to make it a 16-point game, 25-41, midway through the second period. Vlado Ilievski and Teletovic kept the hosts in the game as Olympiacos went through a short offensive crisis. Splitter hit a hook shot at 31-43 with 3 minutes left until halftime, but Halperin needed only one shot to restore the Reds at 31-46. Nerves took over at the home side, as Prigioni had to be benched after committing his second and third fouls in less than a minute before Pargo drilled another triple from the corner as Olympiacos skated into the break with a crowd-silencing 37-51 advantage.

Theo Papaloukas - OlympiacosMickeal kept leading Tau after the break, but his efforts had little return as Olympiacos found Vujcic and Papaloukas to run the show. A great assist by Papaloukas turned into a basket-plus-free throw for Childress that increased visitors’ margin to 41-58 after 24 minutes. The situation seemed to be critical for Tau, but Vidal emerged to hit back-to-back triples, followed by a short jumper in less than a minute to awake the home fans and reduce the gap to only 9 points, 49-58, forcing a timeout by Olympiacos. Another three-pointer, by Teletovic, made it a six-point game right after that, but Bourousis and Halperin quickly came to the rescue to restore the Reds' double-digit advantage at 52-63 after 27 minutes. Although the hosts looked ready to make a move, Olympiacos kept everything under control thanks to Vujcic, who was unstoppable in both the low and the high posts. Teletovic hit a high-bouncing triple to bring Tau within 60-67 entering the last minute, but Panagiotis Vasilopoulos replied with another bomb right after that. Will Mcdonald, with a buzzer-beater dunk, kept Tau within single digits at 62-70 after 30 minutes.

Zoran Erceg restored the double-digit lead for Olympiacos with a three-pointer to open the final quarter, but the hosts didn’t surrender and found Teletovic and Spltter for easy layups. An unsportmanslike foul by Papaloukas allowed Mickeal's foul shot to make it a six-point game, 67-73, after 33 minutes. Halperin hit a jumper to kept a safe margin for Olympiacos, but not for long. Prigioni scored a nice layup, Teletovic beat the shot-clock from downtown and Vidal made an acrobatic reverse to the gap to the minimum, 74-75, the closes that Tau had been to Olympiacos since the first quarter. With 4 minutes to go, and his team struggling to hold its lead, Papaloukas stepped forward. First, he drew an offensive foul on Mickeal; then he fed Bourousis for a huge hook shot; then he pulled a defensive rebound in a crowd and went the other way to bury a triple, making it 74-80 and effectively ending Tau's threat. Papaloukas fed Bourousis again before Vasilopoulos made no doubt about it by burying an open triple from the wing at 77-85 at the start of the final minute. A free throw carousel after that served for nothing but to confirm a monster road win, first place and homecourt advantage in the playoffs for Olympiacos.


Oh yes Mel is so honest. STOP THE LIES.

[Ditty]

^Drank KBP's koolaid.. He's not coming.. give it up already.
How can you support Horriboursis?
The most over hyped player of all time... Next to Ricky Rubio.

yah and have bonner as out starting center

[rayray2k8]

yah and have bonner as out starting center

o?? Ian?? Thomas??
Bonner will be trade bait during the off season.
Is that the main reason why you want this guy?
If you're gonna wait for this guy to make a decision, you might as well
wait for Splitter.

[Ditty]

o?? Ian?? Thomas??
Bonner will be trade bait during the off season.
Is that the main reason why you want this guy?
If you're gonna wait for this guy to make a decision, you might as well
wait for Splitter.

i love thomas but he's too old hes no more than a 20 minute man now

ian could be good but has not proven anything besides in the NBDL

Bourousis has played with good compe ion in Europe and will work well with his outside shooting with the spurs of course i don't want the spurs to break the bank for this guy or even let him start and i do hope the spurs do use bonner as trade bait

Bourouis is not better than splitter though but splitter is not that better than bourousis i say the spurs give this guy a contract for 1 year like 1 million and see what he gots

unless were getting gortat or rasheed or mcdyess this guy can't do any worse than bonner IMO

[Indazone]

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