Dealergate

[Yonivore]

No , you don't. That's your mantra.

Do you know?

[ChumpDumper]

Not for Chrysler dealers specifically, but people who looked into this found that only 8-12% of those who called themselves car dealers gave to Obama.

Now, would that make you think that more Republican-donating Chrysler dealers would be shut down than Democrat-donating ones, or fewer?

[Yonivore]

Not for Chrysler dealers specifically, but people who looked into this found that only 8-12% of those who called themselves car dealers gave to Obama.

Now, would that make you think that more Republican-donating Chrysler dealers would be shut down than Democrat-donating ones, or fewer?

I don't know. How many gave to McCain? How many of those are not Chrysler dealers?

Okay, I've already said I don't know if there's a scandal but, a bi-partisan set of Senators want an investigation.

Do you even concede it's a bit su ious?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know.

There you go again.

[Yonivore]

There you go again.

So, you know everything?

[Yonivore]

Not for Chrysler dealers specifically, but people who looked into this found that only 8-12% of those who called themselves car dealers gave to Obama.

Now, would that make you think that more Republican-donating Chrysler dealers would be shut down than Democrat-donating ones, or fewer?

Well, the people that "looked into it" are apparently wrong...

According to this source, car dealers, on the whole, gave 76% to Republicans and 24% to Democrats in 2008.

That's a bit different than the 2.36% Democrat vs. 97.64% Republican dealerships represented in the 789 Chrysler dealerships closed by the Obama-designed scheme. , even using your percentages, that's pretty far off of what would be expected or, dare I say, hoped for in a fair scheme.

[ChumpDumper]

I said Obama, not Democrats.

You just keep proving how little you understand the English language.

Keep expect alive!

[Yonivore]

I said Obama, not Democrats.

You just keep proving how little you understand the English language.

Keep expect alive!

Okay, so you have 8-12% giving to Obama yet somewhere less than 2.36% of the dealerships being closed (9/100 of 1% or .09% to be precise) are Obama donors.

Looks even more su ious.

[DarrinS]

Not for Chrysler dealers specifically, but people who looked into this found that only 8-12% of those who called themselves car dealers gave to Obama.

Now, would that make you think that more Republican-donating Chrysler dealers would be shut down than Democrat-donating ones, or fewer?

Then, of those dealerships that were shuttered, I'd expect somewhere between 8-12% of those to be those that gave to Obama and 88-92% of those to be the ones that donated to GOP. In other words, you might expect the numbers to be proportional. That's not what's happening.

[spurster]

Sounds like some people want a quota system.

[Extra Stout]

I had been scratching my head at why some of the successful high-volume Chrysler dealerships in Houston are being shut down while flailing ones are being left open.

After chewing on it for a couple of days, I would say yes, it is fairly likely that certain dealerships were protected from closure because they are Democratic donors.

This is:
1) Standard Chicago politics, and
2) An example of one of the biggest downsides of large-scale government involvement in the economy -- political loyalties sometimes (often?) trump efficiency and productivity.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I had been scratching my head at why some of the successful high-volume Chrysler dealerships in Houston are being shut down while flailing ones are being left open.

After chewing on it for a couple of days, I would say yes, it is fairly likely that certain dealerships were protected from closure because they are Democratic donors.

This is:
1) Standard Chicago politics, and
2) An example of one of the biggest downsides of large-scale government involvement in the economy -- political loyalties sometimes (often?) trump efficiency and productivity.

So if someone contributed 2300.00 or 4600.00 their dealership was saved? You really believe that?

[Yonivore]

PRAVDA: 'American decent into Marxism happening with breathtaking speed'...

That's from the experts.

[MannyIsGod]

[PixelPusher]

PRAVDA: 'American decent into Marxism happening with breathtaking speed'...

That's from the experts.

I know you have a predilection for citing agitprop as gospel, but...Pravda?

[boutons_deux]

BoniVore has joined Wild Goober as forum clown

... supplying us with Pravda, the whole Pravda, and nothing but the Pravda.

[Wild Cobra]

I just assumed they'd close down the corrupt Dealerships.

My assumption was similar. I saw this some time back when I had my Z28 warranty serviced. the dealers had no problem making extra work for their mechanics, because they made money from GM for the repairs! My thought was maybe, the dealerships suspected of doing unnecessary "make busy" work as "warranty repairs," making Chrysler lose money on a per vehicle basis, were being closed.

Just a thought, no evidence. Just based on a perception of shops I've seen operate.

[Wild Cobra]

I had been scratching my head at why some of the successful high-volume Chrysler dealerships in Houston are being shut down while flailing ones are being left open.

After chewing on it for a couple of days, I would say yes, it is fairly likely that certain dealerships were protected from closure because they are Democratic donors.

This is:
1) Standard Chicago politics, and
2) An example of one of the biggest downsides of large-scale government involvement in the economy -- political loyalties sometimes (often?) trump efficiency and productivity.

I hope that's not what's going on, but if so, we need some massive corruption charges filed.

Would that fall under the RICO Act?

[MannyIsGod]

Tonight, I'm going to get down on my knees and pray the GOP makes this an issue.

[Marcus Bryant]

2) An example of one of the biggest downsides of large-scale government involvement in the economy -- political loyalties sometimes (often?) trump efficiency and productivity.

Right. Not to mention the fact that some of the automakers themselves should be dead. Naturally everyone focuses on the trivial issue and not the larger one. The assumption is that this country will be able to rebound economically and that these interventions are temporary. Just because the calendar moves forward, that does not mean progress is being made.

[Wild Cobra]

A day or two ago, I head a clip of an investor almost crying, that he would only get something like 3 cents on the dollar I think for the GM bonds he bought.

Well, maybe I'm ignorant, but I though that there were always known risks with investing money... What am I missing?

I wonder how many rich democrats own these GM and other auto maker bonds?

[LnGrrrR]

PRAVDA: 'American decent into Marxism happening with breathtaking speed'...

That's from the experts.

I did enjoy their look at the chocolate side of Hollywood, and their celebration of underwear.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Tonight, I'm going to get down on my knees and pray the GOP makes this an issue.

Tonight, I'm going to get down on my knees and pray that one of you liberal apologists will actually be willing to have a logical conversation on the board for once instead of the constant name calling.

But who am I kidding, that has about as much a chance of happening as Obama Motors being successful

[LnGrrrR]

Tonight, I'm going to get down on my knees and pray that one of you liberal apologists will actually be willing to have a logical conversation on the board for once instead of the constant name calling.

But who am I kidding, that has about as much a chance of happening as Obama Motors being successful