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    Ironic that as much as the Obama campaign was downplaying his Muslim heritage, it is now being emphasized in his grand apology tour.

    I don't know what to make of all his grand overtures to the Muslim world. Will they begin to like us? I'm a little skeptical, but then again, not much else has worked.

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    Oh please.

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    Riddle me this, then...

    Why was his father agnostic or athiest, during the campaign but now, all of a sudden, Obama remembers how his father was a Muslim?

    Jake Tapper, at ABC -- one of the few honest journalists left in the mainstream media -- wrote an article about this yesterday or the day before.

    To mention Obama's Muslim background during the campaign was likened to racism...but, now, it's cool to be Muslim.

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    7 and a half more years of Yoni and darrin woo hoo!!

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    phony christian complainers thread.

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    Ironic that as much as the Obama campaign was downplaying his Muslim heritage, it is now being emphasized in his grand apology tour.

    I don't know what to make of all his grand overtures to the Muslim world. Will they begin to like us? I'm a little skeptical, but then again, not much else has worked.
    So... did you start following politics yesterday?

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    Yeah no... Obama should continue the crusader approach in the middle east. They react well to that.

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    The twist of words here is so re ed.

    During the campaign he was refuting the claims by the right that he was a secret Muslim who was giving terrorist fist jabs to everyone. There's a big difference between saying you're Muslim and saying that you have Islamic heritage so that there's a point of commonality amongst him and the moderate Muslims he's trying to appeal to.

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    To mention Obama's Muslim background during the campaign was likened to racism...but, now, it's cool to be Muslim.
    When it was mentioned during the campaign by Obama's opponents, it was meant to be derogatory and create the fear that he was going to be sympathetic to Muslim terrorists.

    When it's mentioned in the context of strengthening dialogue with Muslim countries, it's a little different for anyone who isn't a liar or a moron.

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    The twist of words here is so re ed.

    During the campaign he was refuting the claims by the right that he was a secret Muslim who was giving terrorist fist jabs to everyone. There's a big difference between saying you're Muslim and saying that you have Islamic heritage so that there's a point of commonality amongst him and the moderate Muslims he's trying to appeal to.
    Beat me to it.

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    more ankle-biting irrelevancy from the wrongies who'd rather occupy Muslim countries (only the one with oil) and run phony, unending wars in Muslims countries, slaughter 1000s of innocent civilians, (all those have failed to make Americans any safer) rather than try to find some common ground that increases all side's safety.

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    Ironic that as much as the Obama campaign was downplaying his Muslim heritage, it is now being emphasized in his grand apology tour.

    I don't know what to make of all his grand overtures to the Muslim world. Will they begin to like us? I'm a little skeptical, but then again, not much else has worked.
    I agree. We just need to kill them all, friend and foe alike. We need to start with Muslim children.. They go first

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    Ironic that as much as the Obama campaign was downplaying his Muslim heritage, it is now being emphasized in his grand apology tour.

    I don't know what to make of all his grand overtures to the Muslim world. Will they begin to like us? I'm a little skeptical, but then again, not much else has worked.
    Riddle me this, then...

    Why was his father agnostic or athiest, during the campaign but now, all of a sudden, Obama remembers how his father was a Muslim?

    Jake Tapper, at ABC -- one of the few honest journalists left in the mainstream media -- wrote an article about this yesterday or the day before.

    To mention Obama's Muslim background during the campaign was likened to racism...but, now, it's cool to be Muslim.

    You guys just keep making examples of how to get completely refuted in an internet discussion. Bravo. Keep it up, it's quite amusing.

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    My original point was more about the tactic of handing out the olive branch, but I guess the board libs are more offended by my mentioning Obama's Muslim roots.


    Here's that Jake Tapper blog/article

    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...ould-have.html




    ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report: The other day we heard a comment from a White House aide that never would have been uttered during the primaries or general election campaign.

    During a conference call in preparation for President Obama's trip to Cairo, Egypt, where he will address the Muslim world, deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Denis McDonough said "the President himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to -- or before he's been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world -- you know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father -- obviously Muslim Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago."

    Given widespread unease and prejudice against Muslims among Americans, especially in the wake of 9/11, the Obama campaign was perhaps understandably very sensitive during the primaries and general election to downplay the candidate's Muslim roots.

    The candidate was even offended when referred to by his initials "BHO," because he considered the use of his middle name, "Hussein," an attempt to frighten voters.

    With insane rumors suggesting he was some sort of Muslim Manchurian candidate, then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and his campaign did everything they could to emphasize his Christianity and de-emphasize the fact that his father, Barack Obama Sr., was born Muslim.

    The candidate's comment at a Boca Raton, Florida, town hall meeting on May 22, 2008, was typical: "My father was basically agnostic, as far as I can tell, and I didn't know him," he said.

    In September 2008, candidate Obama told a Pennsylvania crowd, "I know that I'm not your typical presidential candidate and I just want to be honest with you. I know that the temptation is to say, 'You know what? The guy hasn't been there that long in Washington. You know, he's got a funny name. You know, we're not sure about him.' And that's what the Republicans when they say this isn't about issues, it's about personalities, what they're really saying is, 'We're going to try to scare people about Barack. So we're going to say that, you know, maybe he's got Muslim connections.'...Just making stuff up."

    Back then, the campaign's "Fight the Smears" website addressed the candidate's faith without mentioning his father's religion:

    "Barack Obama is a committed Christian. He was sworn into the Senate on his family Bible. He has regularly attended church with his wife and daughters for years. But shameful, shadowy attackers have been lying about Barack’s religion, claiming he is a Muslim instead of a committed Christian. When people fabricate stories about someone’s faith to denigrate them politically, that’s an attack on people of all faiths. Make sure everyone you know is aware of this deception."

    The website also provided quotes from the Boston Globe and Newsweek mentioning his father's roots.

    Since the election, however, with the threat of the rumors at least somewhat abated, the White House has been increasingly forthcoming about the president's roots. Especially when reaching out to the
    Muslim world.

    In his April 6 address to the Turkish Parliament, President Obama referenced how many "Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country. I know, because I am one of them."

    - Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller


    In his Cairo speech, Obama emphasized his middle name.

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    You guys just keep making examples of how to get completely refuted in an internet discussion. Bravo. Keep it up, it's quite amusing.
    i thought it was in planning for the celebration of obama's assassination? hmm. who knews.
    amusing, indeed.

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    In his Cairo speech, Obama emphasized his middle name.
    Good.

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    My original point was more about the tactic of handing out the olive branch, but I guess the board libs are more offended by my mentioning Obama's Muslim roots.

    Read the first sentence of your first post again. Want to discuss a certain topic? Don't muddy it up with bull .

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    Magik Negro played it smart with his name during the campaign, and he's playing it smart with name now, outsmarting his opponents in both cases. dubya/ head/neo-c*nts left the ME and west Asia as a total disaster zone, without improving Americans' or world security. HUSSEIN! is trying something different.

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    Magik Negro played it smart with his name during the campaign, and he's playing it smart with name now, outsmarting his opponents in both cases. dubya/ head/neo-c*nts left the ME and west Asia as a total disaster zone, without improving Americans' or world security. HUSSEIN! is trying something different.

    Even though you are a re ed bag, you at least addressed the issue -- well, in your own special way.

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    Again, for the board Repubs...

    Obama. Is. A. Politician.

    Politicians are hypocrites all the time. They spin something one way to please one crowd, and they spin it another way to please another crowd.

    Frankly, any politician who doesn't do that isn't doing a good job, I feel. It's one thing to lie blatantly, it's another to spin.

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    My original point was more about the tactic of handing out the olive branch.
    Too bad it wasn't your first point.

    Are we at war with Egypt?

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    Again, for the board Repubs...
    just call me a bored repub...

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    Yes, Obama is trying to utilize his unique racial heritage to try a new tactic in foreign policy - diplomacy.

    The article *I* read about this issue pointed out, accurately, that Obama is not claiming his father was a Muslim. His father was a "confirmed atheist" -- according to Obama's book -- but was raised Muslim. Obama himself was raised without a religion, but was baptized as a young man at Trinity Baptist Church in Chicago. He attended Muslim schools, Catholic schools, and secular schools all over the world.

    There is probably not a person on this planet better poised to bridge the huge gap between the Muslim world and the Western world, between the racial, religious, and economic differences in America and the world. It doesn't mean it will work, but credit Obama for trying to use his unique heritage in a diplomatic way.

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    i guess we should just send joan rivers over to bridge the gap between the jews and the muslims. there's not a better person on the planet to do that being that she won the apprentice.


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