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Freedom of speech has its limits, I suppose. And never expect to be able to ask a president of whatever alleged ideological stripe an unscripted question.
SALT LAKE CITY – Federal prosecutors have charged a man with making threats against President Barack Obama after he allegedly told a bank employee in Utah he was on a mission to kill the president.
The Salt Lake Tribune reported on its Web site Thursday that Daniel James Murray allegedly made the remark to a teller at a bank in St. George on May 27 as he withdrew $13,000 from an account.
Murray's whereabouts are unknown. A court affidavit says Murray is from New York and has recently been in California, Utah, Georgia, Oklahoma and possibly Texas.
The U.S. Secret Service says Murray has at least eight registered firearms, the Tribune reported.
Malcolm Wiley, a spokesman for the Secret Service in Washington, told The Associated Press he had no comment Thursday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/...s_obama_threat
Freedom of speech has its limits, I suppose. And never expect to be able to ask a president of whatever alleged ideological stripe an unscripted question.
Hate to tell that guy, but dude is out of town.
Yeah... It'd be one thing for me to say "I'd like to kill the President" on some random message board... but another thing for me to tell a person "I'd like to kill the President" whilst I withdraw 13,000 from a bank and proceed to disappear off the grid. Cir stances go a long way.
Although in typical re ed ducks' fashion he's just trying to get the point across that Obama is being too harsh to people who'd like to kill him.
i'm sure the conservatives are preparing for the celebration that might be coming. isn't that right, havoc?
You are so obsessed with me, it's hilarious. Keep it up, since that's about the extent of your political discourse these days.
ah, the obsessed ploy. yes. guilty as charged.
Only the most intelligent dangerous ninja clan criminal assassssssssins leak out plots to random bank tellers.
There's got to be other side spectrum criminals in this country making a killing
You don't have to be intelligent to be dangerous.
I think Sir Issiac Einstine-Kelvin would disagree wit you...
Seems like a nice guy. The cape thing reminds me of a "Seinfeld" bit.
Arrest warrant issued for Daniel James Murray, man 'on a mission to kill' President Obama
BY GLENN BLAIN IN REXFORD, N.Y., JAMES GORDON MEEK IN WASHINGTON, AND CORKY SIEMASZKO IN NEW YORK
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
Updated Friday, June 5th 2009, 12:47 PM
The gun-loving former New Yorker being sought Friday for threatening to kill President Obama was known in his old neighborhood as the "Cape Man" of Blue Jay Way.
Daniel James Murray, who sparked a nationwide federal manhunt by telling a Utah bank manager he was "on a mission to kill" Obama, used to amble through the streets of upstate Rexford, wearing a black cape and muttering to himself, his former neighbors said.
"Everybody started calling him 'Cape Man,' " said Leighann Anastasia, who lives two doors down from the modest but nicely maintained house Murray once called home on Blue Jay Way.
"He was a little whacked out, it was obvious," added another former neighbor, Sam Masrouri.
Murray, 36, lived with an elderly couple who the neighbors believe were his parents. They moved out last December to an unknown destination, the neighbors said.
The property used to be dotted with assorted religious statues, including a "glowing cross" in the back yard by the tool shed, Anastasia said.
Murray - last seen heading east and driving a blue 2001 Buick LeSabre with New York plates - purportedly threatened Obama on May 27 after withdrawing nearly $13,000 from a bank in the town of St. George, Utah, court papers say.
"We are on a mission to kill the President of the United States," Murray reportedly said before he split.
Murray returned the next day and withdrew his remaining $72,000. He was spotted later that day at another bank in Cedar City, Utah.
Wearing glasses and a scraggly beard, Murray was dressed in a black T-shirt with the words, "My way is the highway--- God" emblazoned across the chest with a Christian cross sprouting wings, sources said.
Murray's pursuers are concerned because he has money to burn - and because he has at least eight registered semi-automatic pistols and revolvers. But they rate his threat to Obama "more aspirational than operational."
"He's obviously a little off his stride, which becomes more of a concern for police officers who might stop his car," a federal law enforcement source told the Daily News.
While little is known about Murray, he apparently blames Obama for the economic meltdown that began under the Bush administration.
"With all this mess going on under President Obama with banks and the economy, I'm sure if citizens happen to lose their money, they will rise up and we could see killing and deaths," he reportedly ranted on May 19, when he opened a savings account at the Utah bank with $85,000.
Eight days later, Murray returned and tried to withdraw $12,698. He flipped out when a teller turned him down because he lacked proper identification.
"Not to be disrespectful, but if I don't get this money, someone is going to die," he said, the court say.
The teller then fetched the bank manager, who okayed Murray's withdrawal. He also agreed to Murray's request for no bills larger than $50 - and in non-sequential order.
While the teller counted out the money, court paper say Murray declared:
"We are 94 million miles from the sun, and are in between the sun and moon, and the eagle that flies between them and it's a giant step for mankind ... I have traveled thousands of miles to be here and know things that are going to happen ... The banking system will fail and people will die ... There will be chaos in the world."
Then Murray blurted out his assassination threat and left, authorities say.
Murray, who had recently been in California, Utah, Georgia, Oklahoma and possibly Texas, was born July 12, 1972, stands 6-foot-2, and weighs 250 pounds.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_w...xzz0HaS3ZWTq&D
he sounds like a real winner.
maybe angel_luv can talk him down.
..well, at least they seem to have more evidence on this guy then any of the guys they busted in NY and Miami...While little is known about Murray, he apparently blames Obama for the economic meltdown that began under the Bush administration.
"With all this mess going on under President Obama with banks and the economy, I'm sure if citizens happen to lose their money, they will rise up and we could see killing and deaths," he reportedly ranted on May 19, when he opened a savings account at the Utah bank with $85,000.
Eight days later, Murray returned and tried to withdraw $12,698. He flipped out when a teller turned him down because he lacked proper identification.
"Not to be disrespectful, but if I don't get this money, someone is going to die," he said, the court say.
The teller then fetched the bank manager, who okayed Murray's withdrawal. He also agreed to Murray's request for no bills larger than $50 - and in non-sequential order.
...and the FBI didn't have to give him the money either....bonus...
Does anyone think he will be convicted of this threat and go to jail for it?
Maybe -- it will be interesting to see if he resists arrest.
I just wonder how credible the witness is. Am I to understand that there is mow an arrest warrant out based on an employee of a bank? That's a bit flimsy I think.
Was there a recording? Could a bank employee have lied? I've taken out large sums before, and bank employees can get antsy, and customers get impatient. Not saying he didn't make threats, just that I don't trust the teller either. I need real evidence. Hearsay of a threat isn't very valid in my eyes.The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Well then he can just waltz into the local police station and clear everything up.
most warrants are based solely on the hearsay statements of an affiant. many affiants are drug abusers, homeless people, gang bangers, murderers, and pieces of in general.
Geeezuz that douchbag has a couple of dollars though. I guess living home at 36 not paying any bills will make saving that kind of money alot easier.
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