Seriously mouse, what are you saying hit the Pentagon?
First off, I didn't notice the discrepancy until part two where he says it isn't his car. Actually the light it could be covered, but some of it still should be visible. I fond it convenient that a vehicle and two bodies block a proper view to see that it is Lloyde's car. Cannot see any markings other than it's the same type of car. Could have even been photo-shopped in!
From part 1 of the video:
ok so as I am saying if something like that can survive than FOR SURE SOMETHING ELSE CAN SURVIVE...give me more... but I want a seat or something that is from nothing other than a passenger 757
This has all been discussed and worn out years ago. Myself, and I'm sure others, don't want to look for old information. Watch a jet's destruction sometime into a concrete barrier, and remember the Pentagon is a concrete structure.
Where did the jet go?
Anything at that speed that hit concrete, was possibly atomized. Only the parts that made it through the windows, sheered off from a rear part of the aircraft as the front hit, and missed concrete at those speeds, would survive.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 06-05-2009 at 07:18 PM.
Wild cobra
good find. This is interesting. Did you take freezes or did you find this?
The biggest problem with using that video to state your point is that one that was a special built wall(8' thick) to test against aircraft hitting nuclear reactors...and two the most obvious the pentagon wasnt built like that....
The 'freeze frames' I edited myself from the Youtube clip. The jet, I found on Youtube with a simple search.
How about passengers?
There are some pretty gruesome pictures of them from the Moussaoui trial, if you really care to look. I don't anymore. They are labeled well enough that you can find them yourself if you are really serious.
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notable...osecution.html
Pretty much all the passengers were identified by DNA, so they were indeed there -- or you are accusing the entire forensics team (about 100 people) of being in on it.
Well I am certainly sold after seeing this.... this red bandana in PA proves all terroist guilty as charged....jesus christ who conducted the trial mickey mouse holy .
The body parts are from the people inside are the people that worked there....if something like the red bandana was found at the pa site but nothing else not even the terrorist wearing it I am calling BULL and if you cant see it now your in ing denial
this was suppose to have been found INSIDE the pentagon....once again give me a ing break. I seriously doubt any trial was given...its as fake as the rest of the event...obviously denial is the only excuse
come on now your only fooling yourselves
Where does it say that?
this was suppose to have been found INSIDE the pentagon.
Don't you think that might be a more important piece of evidence than a barf bag?
Good job avoiding the DNA question though. I know you couldn't do anything else when faced with that,
It still explains what happens. Think about the physics of it. Did you take physics? The kinetic energy of going about 500 MPH of so, suddenly stopping by a solid object, creates an enormous amount of heat. The 757 max takeoff weight is 115,680 kg. Just for illustration, let's assume it weighed 100,000 kg.
Kenetic energy:Energy is in joules, mass in Kg, and Velocity in meters per second. 500 MPH is 223.5 m/sec. This amounts to 2,498 million joules (2.298 GJ.) 1 ton TNT exploding = 4.184 GJ! Remember, a 757 is mostly a hollow aluminum tube. The equivalent of 1200 pounds of TNT can do a great deal of destruction.
You all can post all the you want but when something like this red bandana is suppose to be evidence and you freaking believe it....you have bigger issues than arguing with a stanger online.....
Chumpdumper follow the link...
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notable...n/PE00102.html
obviously not enough to burn up
gentlemen the writing is on the wall
We don't care about old conspiracies that have been debunked. At least I don't.
Where were you in 2002? Forget how thoroughly your kind was spanked?
This Taxi thing is a new angle. I show compelling evidence it's another faked incident, and you change to old stuff, already debunked. I suggest you read old threads to get your answers.
How about the Taxi. Wrong angle, wrong background, where the light and antenna should be, are blocked by bodies enough to not tell for sure. The other car is parked as not to see the broken window of phone number on the side.
How about it. Same car or not? I say not. Either staged or photo-shopped. Either way, the twoofers are making up evidence. They are lying, and you believe them.
So your saying you believe that the red bandana survived the air crash in pa.....
Something of light mass would easily be pushed out by by the air, as it rushes out an opening during the crash. It likely wasn't being worn at the time. Maybe it was hiding a box cutter, until the action started. Easily blown out though.
The problem with you conspiracy theorists, is you take the explaination you want, and ignore other possibilities. I don't know how the bandanna survived, but it's not that improbable.
Since that wasn't found at the Pentagon site, I don't know why you are bringing it up -- oh, yeah, to avoid talking about the DNA.
You all can post all the you want but when something like this red bandana is suppose to be evidence and you freaking believe it....you have bigger issues than arguing with a stanger online.....
Right. It says it was found at the crash site, not inside the Pentagon.
Your probably reffering to THIS box cutter that was found
the dna is as made up as the rest of the crap to be considered evidence
inside the pentagon or on the grass that ID card is total BULL and you know now your just ignoring the obvious
The fact it survived doesn't matter. Too many possibilities of why it survived. You cannot rule out that some items would survive.Your probably reffering to THIS box cutter that was found
So you are saying all the investigators are in on it. And all the bodies are fake.
Why would it be total bull ? lighter objects can fall out of or be blown away in a crash.inside the pentagon or on the grass that ID card is total BULL and you know now your just ignoring the obvious
Tell you what -- why don't you personally interview members of the recovery and cleanup, investigation and forensic crews and ask them why they are all in on the conspiracy?
The ball is in your court.
How about engine parts:
Now before you say the jet engine is larger around, yes it is. However, this is the compressor stage which is much smaller than the turbofan in the front. These are engine parts for a 757.
No kidding. Hard to get 50 forensic specialists in on a conspiracy I bet:
Forensic feat IDs nearly all Pentagon victims
Bodies and parts found in the pentagon:
Click on the above for a 2,528 × 1,723 image.
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