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What is the "NBA grading body" and do they have a website where I can see their evaluations of other potential FA targets?
You have never see him play. He is FAR FAR FAR better rebounder than Gortat is. He is MUCH BIGGER and is a much bigger presence under basket at rim and in lane than Gortat. MUCH MUCH MUCH more physical than Gortat.
Bourousis has a saying "I will rather break your arm than allow you an open lay up." Bourousis is a much better dunker and finisher at the basket than Gortat is. Bourousis is taller and has a longer wingspan. Bourousis has post moves and good shooting ability to about 20-22 feet.
Gortat is quicker and faster because he is a PF/C and he is not nearly in same size. Bourousis has power and size to play guys like Howard and Yao straight to straight man to man on defense. Also Bourousis can play the pick and roll game and the high post and low post two centers game. He can also spread the floor for Duncan as a shooter. Gortat is a good and nice player but Bourousis has a lot more talent ability and potential.
Bourousis when he is healthy he can be in same class as probably any center in NBA except maybe Yao or Howard. Remember this guy did never even touch a basketball in his whole life until age 18.
What is the "NBA grading body" and do they have a website where I can see their evaluations of other potential FA targets?
Bourousis is 7-1. He is not 6-11.
The official Olympiacos website lists him at 2.10m which converts to 6'11".
http://www.olympiacos.org/index.html...tball/Players/
He is 2.15m That 2.10m is a very old listing from when he was first measured for Greek league at age 17. That is where Greek league and Euroleague height comes from. He is not 6-11. He is 7-1.
When he was officially measure by FIBA for the first time he play with senior Greek national team at 2005 European Championship at age 21 he was measure at 2.15m.
2.15m is his official and real height. That is same height as Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol was also list as like 6-11 from league play as a teenager. He is really 7-1 though.
Same with Bourousis.
And here is your proof since you never believe anything and always accuse me of lying.
(ignore pic of Spanoulis that is an error)
http://www.fibaeurope.com/cid_KNce8j...rID_41392.html
http://www.eurobasket2007.org/en/cid...eamID_291.html
Age 21 official measurement is better than age 17 official measurement.
Last edited by Kill_Bill_Pana; 06-07-2009 at 05:43 PM.
Es Lies! No such thing as NBA grading body! Racist lies!
Billy boy, why so sensitive? I believe things that can be proved. In almost every case, you refuse to provide any evidence to support what you say.
In this case, you have provided links to two reputable websites that contain different info. Well done. I see you have already started a new thread to proclaim this great accomplishment.
You can understand the confusion we poor Americans must suffer when we cannot rely on the information contained on the official Olympiacos and Euroleague sites. I didn't know that I had to check with FIBA to get the official information. The Olympiacos site seems to be very professional, strange that they would use 8-year old information about one of their best players. Perhaps you could send an e-mail in Greek to their webmaster so that they can correct this error. Thanks for all your help.
Domestic leagues go by rule of height when player joins league just like NBA. Look at NBA they have players for 15 years and never even change the weight listing. "NBA site seems very professional".Billy boy, why so sensitive? I believe things that can be proved. In almost every case, you refuse to provide any evidence to support what you say.
In this case, you have provided links to two reputable websites that contain different info. Well done
You can understand the confusion we poor Americans must suffer when we cannot rely on the information contained on the official Olympiacos and Euroleague sites. I didn't know that I had to check with FIBA to get the official information. The Olympiacos site seems to be very professional, strange that they would use 8-year old information about one of their best players. Perhaps you could send an e-mail in Greek to their webmaster so that they can correct this error. Thanks for all your help.
Also you will remember that Spurs fans in the forum INSISTED Scola was "only 6-8". They would not listen to truth that he was 6-9.5
I'll take the player that stepped in the starting spot for Howard in a closeout game and put up a double/double...the same player that sent away LeBron and Gasol(more than once).
Really? This is a rule? I'll tell ya what Bill, you keep on teaching us all so many new things.
And there is one very obvious difference between the NBA and the leagues in Europe. Players as young as 15 sign with European clubs, so one would expect some growth to continue. I guess the only reason they don't update their website is because of this rule which I have learned about today. Thanks again.
No offense, but you are very wrong. I have not watched a lot of Bourousis, some clips, highlights and small samples of games, but your assessment of both players (Bourousis and Gortat) is way off base.
I am not saying Bourousis will succeed or even come over for that matter, but if he fails, it will not be because of the reasons you outlined and the cap situation would likely be the same for the Spurs whether they signed Bourousis or Gortat. They will likely cost the same.
Yeah, I think you're right although I think Gortat will cost more. Bourousis will cost at least the what Scola costs.
o my friends.First of all,i have to say that i am Panathinaikos..so i really HATE Bourousis because is very provocative.But!!!! i admit that is a very good player(the best of Olympiakos for this season),and i really want him in my second favourite team.At this time,i am sure tha he is better than Splitter,he is shooting much better and is more powerful in reb.
AND I ENSURE YOU 100%!!!!!!!! He is 2.15(7.1) NOT 6.11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Obra and welcome...What is Bourousis weight?
Looking at the You tube vid, I got these impressions: Very Good hands useful on pick and roll. Knows how to finish with dunks. Can even put the all on the floor a little bit. highlight reels seldom concentrate on defense but on the few defensive plays it showed, he was moving his feet and trying so maybe his defense will be OK>
big men with any skills are always a commodity so the downside risk will be slight. If he is the best international player, I'm inclined to beleive he will be OK in NBA. Similarly Scola turned out great despite a lot of doubts about the quality of play overseas.
Awesome.
disagree, but what's the sense of such "rankings" anyhow?
the question should be, could they co exist, because there is a chance that if Bouroussis in fact comes to SA, that he and Splitter form the Spurs front court of the future.
IMO this two should fit well alongside. Splitter is the more athletic and more mobile player, moves better in the paint and I would also call him the better defender and better shot blocker, especially against players who step out. he's also the better ball handler. Bouroussis is the much better shooter, a bit stronger and bigger and he's the better rebounder. a pretty nice tandem IMO.
Splitter plays more of the traditional Center on offense and Bouroussis a PF and on defense they can switch positions. not that this was a new concept in the Spurs system.
I asked about this earlier in this thread. Please explain what the "NBA Grading body" is and point us to where their evaluations can be read.
Ioannis Bourousis is 6'9'' w/o shoes.
I think its safer to invest in Gortat if we can pry him out of Orlando. No outside shooting, but good defense and he's playoff exposed.
Nikola Vujcic is better than Boroussis. Why doesn't anyone mention him as an NBA target???
I have always liked Vujcic because he is better than Greeks and not Greek, but I don't think he ever had much interest in playing in the US.
http://www.sportnet.gr/report.aspx?id=190069
As expected, Olympiacos make a better offer to Bourousis and they are close of reaching an agreement.
Yep, looks like he's gone.
That's the last time I consider a Greek player. Even in the article it says that he didn't want to come to the U.S.
Oh well.
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