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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23510.html
He’s done it while talking about abortion and the Middle East, even the economy. The references serve at once as an affirmation of his faith and a rebuke against a rumor that persists for some to this day.
As president, Barack Obama has mentioned Jesus Christ in a number of high-profile public speeches — something his predecessor George W. Bush rarely did in such settings, even though Bush’s Christian faith was at the core of his political iden y.
In his speech Thursday in Cairo, Obama told the crowd that he is a Christian and mentioned the Islamic story of Isra, in which Moses, Jesus and Mohammed joined in prayer
At the University of Notre Dame on May 17, Obama talked about the good works he’d seen done by Christian community groups in Chicago. “I found myself drawn — not just to work with the church but to be in the church,” Obama said. “It was through this service that I was brought to Christ.”
And a month before that, Obama mentioned Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount at Georgetown University to make the case for his economic policies. Obama retold the story of two men, one who built his house on a pile of sand and the other who built his on a rock: “We cannot rebuild this economy on the same pile of sand,” Obama said. “We must build our house upon a rock.”
More than four months into the Obama presidency, a picture is emerging of a chief executive who is comfortable with public displays of his religion — although he has also paid tribute to other faiths and those he called “nonbelievers” during his inaugural address.
Obama’s invocation of the Christian Messiah is more overt than Americans heard in the public rhetoric of Bush in his time in the White House — even though Bush’s victories were powered in part by evangelical voters.
“I don’t recall a single example of Bush as president ever saying, ‘Jesus’ or ‘Christ,’” said Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Christian group Family Research Council. “This is different.”
To Perkins, Obama’s overtly Christian rhetoric is a welcome development from an administration that he largely disagrees with on the issues, though Perkins sees a political motive behind it, as well.
“I applaud that. It gives people a sense of comfort,” Perkins said. “But I think it’s a veneer, a facade that covers over a lot of policies that are anti-Christian.” That includes, in his view, Obama’s stance in favor of abortion rights.
Good for him.
......and your point is..............................
The last eight years of officials clowning for the religious right might have gotten us used to it. Maybe not.
All the religious cooing is really in bad taste IMO, but it's still a commonplace of retail politics. I don't really expect that to change much.
That Barack Obama invokes Jesus into his speeches more than Bush did. All that whining about how President Obama wouldn't talk about his religion was for naught.
That is all.
But he's an Arab Muslim!
An Israeli woman said so!
i thought religion was something everyone wants to get away from. people bash the religious right yet write this about obama. classic. i wonder what percentage of people that voted and support obama are actually believers. both sides playing the middle. laughable.
I wish Obama was an atheist. I have my doubts that he's a true believer anyway. You shouldn't have to pander to a religion in order to get votes.
Not religion itself -- religion in government.
At least he wasn't stupid enough to say the US military was fighting a crusade in the middle east.
at least someone fought instead of just talking.
Pssst....we are still fighting.
pssssst.....we were already there lonnnnnnng before 12009
pssssst.......north korea
psssssst. .......pakistan
psssssst..........iran
chatter chatter chatter
When did it become such a negative thing to be a religious person?
Just curious.
Was FDR talking about a war specifically in the middle east against Muslims?
No he was not.
DarrinS,
We were fighting Nazis back then... the best enemies ever. It's different.
Honestly, I really don't care if someone is religious and looks at our war with that mindset, as long as they're not sending us over there for THAT reason.
I don't think it's negative to be religious; I just think it's negative to use religious reasons alone to try to make policy. If you can persuade me with a useful reason, great, I don't care if there are also religious overtones. (ie. saying that you disagree with abortion due to religious reasons, but also using moral reasons to argue is 100% acceptable to me. Trying to tell me abortions are unacceptable because God says so does nothing for me.)
Last edited by LnGrrrR; 06-09-2009 at 02:44 PM.
"it's bad form to wash your clean linen in public."
"negative thing to be a religious person"
when "Religious" people impose, intolerantly, their morals and fantasies into Caesar's realm, and into purposely secular/non-denominational areas.
Obama is no more a christian than Osama - he invokes religion when it serves his purpose and to gain approval. It's all a calculated facade.
I'll give you a good example: Christian evangelical abolitionist movement of the 1800's.
How uncharitable. He's like Osama to you?
Pobrecita!
You actually think you add anything?
Having faith in a higher power, supreme being, creator, etc. is no crazier than worshiping a teleprompter quoting community organizer than hasn't accomplished jack squat as POTUS. Just saying.
Good example.You actually think you add anything?
So, you're telling me there aren't good non-religious reasons to support abolition?
Again, I don't care if people support something from a religious mindset. I don't even care if they support something ONLY due to a religious mindset, as long as they can provide good non-religious reasons to support their cause.
In the case of abolition, there were obviously moral arguments to be made that were independent of God.
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