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    Obama repackages stimulus plans with old promises
    By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers Brett J. Blackledge And Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press Writers
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    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama assured the nation his recovery plan was on track Monday, scrambling to calm Americans unnerved by unemployment rates still persistently rising nearly four months after he signed the biggest economic stimulus in history.

    Obama admitted his own dissatisfaction with the progress but said his administration would ramp up stimulus spending in the coming months. The White House acknowledged it has spent only $44 billion, or 5 percent, of the $787 billion stimulus, but that total has always been expected to rise sharply this summer.

    "Now we're in a position to really accelerate," Obama said.

    He also repeated an earlier promise to create or save 600,000 jobs by the end of the summer.


    Neither the acceleration nor the jobs goal are new. Both represent a White House repackaging of promises and projects to blunt criticism that the effects haven't been worth the historic price tag. And the job estimate is so murky, it can never be verified.

    The economy has shed 1.6 million jobs since the stimulus measure was signed in February, far overshadowing White House announcements estimating the effort has saved 150,000 jobs. Public opinion of Obama's handling of the economy has declined along with the jobs data.

    For the first time, the administration admitted the economic forecasts it used to sell the stimulus were overly optimistic.

    "At the time, our forecast seemed reasonable," Vice President Joe Biden's top economic adviser, Jared Bernstein, said Monday, explaining that the White House underestimated the scope of the recession. "Now, looking back, it was clearly too optimistic."

    By now, according to earlier White House economic models, the nation's unemployment rate should be on the decline. The forecasts used to drum up support for the plan projected today's unemployment would be about 8 percent. Instead, it sits at 9.4 percent, the highest in more than 25 years.

    Some analysts believe the White House is still not being realistic, that Obama will be lucky if any real job creation from his recovery effort is seen by the end of the year, let alone the employment explosion he predicts.

    "I think these estimates are overly optimistic," said Arpitha Bykere, a senior analyst with RGE Monitor.

    Obama spoke Monday about "modest progress" in the economy, citing fewer jobs lost last month than expected. He said he hopes to build on that in the months ahead with stimulus programs.

    "We've done more than ever, faster than ever, more responsibly than ever, to get the gears of the economy moving again," he said.

    But he acknowledged, "I'm not satisfied. We've got more work to do."

    Americans apparently agree. Obama's disapproval rating on the economy has risen from 30 percent in February to 42 percent, according to a Gallup poll completed May 31. Sensing weakness on a signature issue of Obama's presidency, congressional Republicans are renewing their criticisms that the stimulus plan has not shown results, only mounting debt.

    "This is President Obama's economy, and his administration must provide results and specifics rather than vague descriptions of success that seem to change by the week," House Republican Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia said. "The administration looks dramatically out of touch as they highlight the creation of temporary summer employment in the face of job losses unseen in decades, record unemployment and massive deficits."

    By any measure, spending $44 billion in less than four months — and with unprecedented openness — is an uncharacteristic feat in Washington. But the expectations have been even higher.

    Several economists said Monday the economy is unlikely to see much boost from the stimulus before next year.

    "It takes time to organize projects, to get the bids in, the funds out and the work started," said Nigel Gault, chief U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight.

    Obama answered his critics Monday by announcing a list of stimulus projects, including many already previously outlined, saying the work will have a huge affect on the economy this summer.

    There is money for expanded health services in local clinics; improvements in national parks and medical centers for veterans; money for police and school jobs; and more than 1,800 public works projects.

    Without naming names, Obama shot back at skeptics during the Cabinet meeting.

    "Now, I know that there's some who, despite all evidence to the contrary, still don't believe in the necessity and promise of this recovery act."

    "And I would suggest to them that they talk to the companies who, because of this plan, scrapped the idea of laying off employees and, in fact, decided to hire employees. Tell that to the Americans who received that unexpected call saying, 'Come back to work.'"

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    Associated Press writers Philip Elliott, Ben Feller and Jeannine Aversa contributed to this story.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_stimulus/print

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    what is he doing
    buying dogs for his kids?

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    The stimulus was just an excuse to pass through hundreds of billions worth of funding for the lefts dream sheet. They had all those campaign contributions to payback.

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    He also repeated an earlier promise to create or save 600,000 jobs by the end of the summer.
    Wonder how far up his ass Axelrod had to reach to pull out that number.

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    If you say PFA instead of what you said, AHF, this forum becomes momentarily safe for random 10 year olds.

    I am a horrible offender against this scruple myself, but urge its justice just the same. There's way too much profanity and nonchalant sexual crudity in this forum.

    Way. Too. Much.

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    Wonder how far up his ass Axelrod had to reach to pull out that number.

    Why stop there? Why not 6 million?

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    The effect of countercyclical measures can't really be measured, so why not tell a really big lie? Why stop there, indeed?

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    The stimulus was just an excuse to pass through hundreds of billions worth of funding for the lefts dream sheet. They had all those campaign contributions to payback.
    Yup.

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    He's just setting us up for Stimulus II.

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    If you say PFA instead of what you said, AHF, this forum becomes momentarily safe for random 10 year olds.

    I am a horrible offender against this scruple myself, but urge its justice just the same. There's way too much profanity and nonchalant sexual crudity in this forum.

    Way. Too. Much.
    I agree. I'm an even worse offender.

    We need a profanity rehab forum.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    There was never really any doubt about more stimulus.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    We need a profanity rehab forum.
    SR?

    If people would just be a little more mindful when they post, we could cut way down on it.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    SR?

    If people would just be a little more mindful when they post, we could cut way down on it.
    Last I checked, SR filtered out the name "Kori Ellis"

    somewhere above the middle would be good, but people will never care about being more mindful when they post unless threatened with a pinking.

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    Government jobs helping the economy. Lol. What exactly does the government sell or produce? Hopenchange? If the government makes enough profit will it stop taxing us?

    Unneeded government service jobs (or roads) created for the sole purpose of moving money around are just another form of income redistribution.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    somewhere above the middle would be good, but people will never care about being more mindful when they post unless threatened with a pinking.
    My own current version of being more mindful is trying not to curse so casually, so that maybe the swearing will count for a little more when I need to.

    I'm not at all against the airing of adult grievances in salty language, but it gets a little *close* in here at times. The vulgarity is nonchalant and unashamed. It is almost unconscious. Habitual, one could say. Morbid might be closer to the mark.

    IMO we can do better. My casual skimming in other forums has disclosed to me a somewhat higher level of attention and discourse than I am accustomed to in this one. None of them are clean, but that isn't the point.

    The level of mindless ing is more intolerable than ever in this forum IMO. That that many even cared to start with. Yoni tries to keep it clean IMO, but fails whenever he is personally provoked. (There are others, whom I would prefer not to shame by singling them out for praise.)

    I understand that it is not required to san ize your speech, but not to even try is another. You don't have to randomly bombard strangers with your yucky adult-themes.

    Politics brings out the worst in everybody. Don't encourage it with your own bad example.

    (Redacted.)


    Ehem.


    (Drinks coffee.)
    Last edited by Winehole23; 06-09-2009 at 12:17 PM.

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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    It only makes sense that people are way more serious about sports than politics.

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    That's weird. Chumps been telling us the checks have been flyin' out of Washington.

    BTW, I will create or save 500 future posts during my administration. God Bless.

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    That's weird. Chumps been telling us the checks have been flyin' out of Washington.
    Link please.

    I've been saying that the appropriations process, mainly in the states which ultimately spend the funds, takes time. Some of the most directly stimulative money -- food stamps, for example -- have indeed been flowing pretty steadily, but infrastructure projects and the like don't start immediately. Anyone who is not an idiot would know that.

    BTW, I will create or save 500 future posts during my administration. God Bless.
    No promise of quality, obviously.

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    Man I wish I could spend myself out of debt!

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