Had this argument at work, what are your thoughts. I argued that the 'baby-boomers' are the most worthless, wreckless, and ed up generation in the history of America. Their social, political, and financial "ways" have ruined everything for every generation beyond them.
Thoughts?
Only that your thoughts have to be wrong. We are being ruined because of younger voters putting politicians that are destroying us. Not the Baby Boomers. Maybe "Generation X," but I'd say more so the younger voters yet. Also, count people of all ages that drink the liberal Kool-Aid.
Right, anyone but you.
I'm son of. My parents survived the sixties with their minds and their earning capacity mostly intact. We scrimped in the 1970's, let ourselves go in the 1980's, and witnessed unparallelled prosperity until very recently.
(Neither one went in much for real estate or exotic noveties, so they'll both be fine, hopefully.)
There is a default maelstrom that hasn't even been booked yet, that is sucking in wealth that strayed too close...
This is the other side of *unparalleled prosperity*.
The boomers did give us the innertubes.
They were not as good as their parents. However, their kids are worse than they are, and their grandkids are vastly worse.
It will include government control of strategic industries, pension obligations etc.
I would agree that it is partially their fault. Baby-boomers and later generations have a certain lack of work ethic that the Greatest Generation didn't. There is a sense of en lement that I think lead to many of our current problems. Our country has stagnated on many fronts, and obviously, the generation that started that stagnating process and its following generations are to blame. With that said, its not like they are the root of all evil...
Declinism never goes out of style and it can be hard to refute.
The WWII generation was better than its parents. This is probably because growing up during the Depression and spending one's twenties fighting a war halfway across the world tends to instill a different kind of character than growing up in wealth and comfort does.
But hey, look at the bright side! The generation that grows up when America implodes into murderous chaos will probably have a lot of character.
That won't happen until they shut down the electricity, cable and satellite TV...
Ever read JG Ballard?
I knew I'd have something to be proud of with my prospective grandchildren.
Occupational hazard. There is honor among theives.
War is kind of hard on the infrastructure.
Conspiracy theorists!
True, but if Iraq is any example it's now expected to clean up after your own mess. You bomb it, you bought it.
Each generation has slackers, and each generation has hard workers. Humanity does not change so drastically from generation to generation. The only thing that changes is the scale.
The Greatest Generation learned 'hard work' and 'ethics' because if they didn't work hard, they wouldn't have survived.
Societies expand to fill what their resources will allow. In the aftermath of the Depression, only the financially secure (or lucky) ones survived. In the 60's and 70's, during relative prosperity, people had the ability to use their time on other things (new age stuff, music, etc etc)
This generation is no more 'lazy' than the older generations. It's just that, due to technology and advances, life is easier overall, so needed work is lessened.
I think Gen Y will be the next big voting bloc, and it's my feeling that most will fall somewhere between liberal and libertarian on the political spectrum.
Umm.. we're talking about another civil war. You bomb it, you bought it doesn't matter when you owned what you bombed in the first place.
Sure it does. If we have a civil war are other countries going to come in and rebuild for us? Or do we have to foot that bill ourselves?
Not even a bit.
There's going to be an overall ongoing cost to maintain our fortresslike possessions in Iraq and Afghanistan, right? On top of cleaning up whatever previous mess. (BTW, Did we already *clean that up*?)
Geostrategic designs. Hot war. Contractors and boots on the ground. Drone attacks.
Nation building, perhaps....
I say it's less of a generational argument than it is an argument of responsibility. Some people want the government to take care of us, and some of us want the government to leave us alone. It is those who want a bigger government who are worthless -up!
ehh... that depends. You're trying to somehow equate this to the Iraq war.
If China came in and sided with the People's Republic of California and proceeded to help the PRC invade New Nevada... then yes, China would have a vested interest in building up the lands they just conquered.
If it's just hot American on American action, then I'd expect nobody to help. At least not in any altruistic capacity.
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