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  1. #26
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Not really. 30 finals, playoffs almost every single season. Boston won a flurry of les in the weakest era during a time where they had basically a monopoly on the draft. Since then, its been all Lakers and no franchise is even close. Huge gap between the number 1 and 2 spot.
    Championships are championships to me. And it was all Boston last year. BOOYAH!

    (though it will probably be all Lakers this year)

  2. #27
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    1) All that matters is championships

    Boston FTW

    2) Can someone post the whole list

  3. #28
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    .....Not even close my friend, I think Lakers are a great franchise no doubt, but Boston Celtics have won all their les in one city.
    Good point DOK.

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    This list is kind of stupid to be honest.

  5. #30
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    Championships are championships to me. And it was all Boston last year. BOOYAH!

    (though it will probably be all Lakers this year)
    IMHO most of Boston's championships were won in one of the weakest era's in NBA history. The fact that the same two teams made it to the Finals for nearly a decade straight is saying something about the compe ion.

    Since the salary cap was introduced in what I would call the modern day NBA as we know it the Lakers have 9 les, which is almost more than double that of any other franchise.

  6. #31
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    IMHO most of Boston's championships were won in one of the weakest era's in NBA history. The fact that the same two teams made it to the Finals for nearly a decade straight is saying something about the compe ion.

    Since the salary cap was introduced in what I would call the modern day NBA as we know it the Lakers have 9 les, which is almost more than double that of any other franchise.

    If theyre so great, why did Kobe demand to be traded?

  7. #32
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    9 is not almost double 6, much less "more" than double 6.

  8. #33
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    This list is kind of stupid to be honest.
    OKC Thunder is ahead of the majority of the teams so, like most of his formulas, its pretty flawed.

    I would love to read the analysis for the Dallas Mavericks though.

    Please tell me that he has "Intangibles" (all posetive things for the top 10) something like:

    -1000: Consistenly finds way to embarrass themselves. Fan-base obsessed with a lame KFC joke told by the guy who did the voice of "Ratatouille".

  9. #34
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    9 is not almost double 6, much less "more" than double 6.
    He's a Laker fan. Cut him some slack.

  10. #35
    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    IMHO most of Boston's championships were won in one of the weakest era's in NBA history. The fact that the same two teams made it to the Finals for nearly a decade straight is saying something about the compe ion.

    Since the salary cap was introduced in what I would call the modern day NBA as we know it the Lakers have 9 les, which is almost more than double that of any other franchise.
    Like I said, the only two teams up for contention for number 1 are Lakers/Celtics. I don't have a problem with people who put Lakers as number 1.

    Any other team being put there would be asinine.

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    OKC Thunder is ahead of the majority of the teams so, like most of his formulas, its pretty flawed.
    I'm guessing you forgot about the history of the Sonics. Seattle won a championship, they were in another Finals, and Seattle was one of the best teams during the 90's. OKC/Seattle has every right to be placed where they are in that list.

  12. #37
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    I'm guessing you forgot about the history of the Sonics. Seattle won a championship, they were in another Finals, and Seattle was one of the best teams during the 90's. OKC/Seattle has every right to be placed where they are in that list.


    I forgot.

    Thanks for correcting me.

  13. #38
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    And, a quick google search could have told you that the first year modern NBA salary cap was 1984-85.

    Since that first year (including that year) the Lakers have won 6 NBA les "since the salary cap was introduced." And 6 is definitely not more than double 6.

  14. #39
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    I love how according to Laker fan Boston won all those les in the "weakest era." How do we know it's the weakest? Why, because Boston won all those les, of course!

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    I'm guessing you forgot about the history of the Sonics. Seattle won a championship, they were in another Finals, and Seattle was one of the best teams during the 90's. OKC/Seattle has every right to be placed where they are in that list.
    Hollinger's formula deducts 100 points for relocation.

    And while they could argue being relatively high on the list, would common sense allow you to think the Sonics/Thunder franchise would rank higher than the Pistons franchise?

  16. #41
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    And, a quick google search could have told you that the first year modern NBA salary cap was 1984-85.

    Since that first year (including that year) the Lakers have won 6 NBA les "since the salary cap was introduced." And 6 is definitely not more than double 6.
    Well he did say "almost more than double".

    More than double would be 13.

    So you could say that 9 is "almost" 13.

  17. #42
    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    But, that post was to also correct the "9."

    Since the modern salary cap was introduced, the Lakers have won 6 les. Not 9.

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    Hollinger's formula deducts 100 points for relocation.

    And while they could argue being relatively high on the list, would common sense allow you to think the Sonics/Thunder franchise would rank higher than the Pistons franchise? Not just higher, but like 7 spots higher?
    I was expecting to see Detroit around the Spurs/Bulls teams. Between the Isiah/Rodman "bad boys" and this era's teams, theres a lot of pride there.

    Can you post his analysis? Im not an "insider".

  19. #44
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    But, that post was to also correct the "9."

    Since the modern salary cap was introduced, the Lakers have won 6 les. Not 9.
    I see. So six would be matched with the Bulls' six.

    He probably doesnt remember the Bulls because he probably wasnt even around in the 90s.

    "Michael Who?"

    - Dr. House

  20. #45
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    I was expecting to see Detroit around the Spurs/Bulls teams. Between the Isiah/Rodman "bad boys" and this era's teams, theres a lot of pride there.

    Can you post his analysis? Im not an "insider".
    I don't have an account. There's a list on the sidebar of the rankings on the link posted in the first post. And, I misspoke when I said 7 spots higher. Thunder (Sonics) is ranked 12th, Pistons 13th.

  21. #46
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    Extremely credible list. Detroit Pistons at #13 right behind Milwaukee Bucks and Oklahoma City Thunder. Extreeeeemely credible list. John Hollinger does it again.
    Ya. That is completely ridiculous.





    #1 looks good though.

  22. #47
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    LMFAO


    Duutrroitt way down there?


    This list is a ing joke.

    And it should be ranked in terms of les to a certain degree unless its like one le and all the rest losing seasons.

  23. #48
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    The Lakers have been consistently excellent in every decade of the NBA's existence.

    The Celtics have not. They went through a nearly two decade long drought before they were even able to get back to the Finals again. And if they don't win it all next season they are poised to repeat that long process again as they have no young superstar talent waiting in the wings.

  24. #49
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    Hollinger would rank Phoenix a top 5 team this past season because they didn't lose a playoff game this post-season.

  25. #50
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    Hollinger would rank Phoenix a top 5 team this past season because they didn't lose a playoff game this post-season.
    Spurfan uses that logic all the time. Going to the finals and losing is worse than not making it all all according to their latest rationalization.

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