4 reasons why Obama's health care plan is no bargain (from CNN of all places)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The best solution is a US govt no-profit public health insurance plan, is why the gouging commercial for-profit health insurance companies are spending 10s of $Ms to kill it.

also, the Repug law the forbids fed govt from negotiating drug prices must be annulled and govt should screw down drug prices.

How you going to pay for it croutons? Ask mommy for more money?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yes, but does the gov of California and Michigan have term limits? Like I said, I fully expect representatives to grow government, because they have no term limits, but it doesn't make sense for a President to do such.

Like I said, Obama can go on the lecture circuit like Gore and make millions talking to his koolaid drinkers.

[boutons_deux]

"Is that non-profit public health insurance plan going to charge people what it actually costs to provide coverage for them?"

For-profit insurance doesn't, why would public insurance? Do you have any clue how insurance works?

120M people have polled as supporting a public insurance option. That's a pool of PAYING insurees bigger than any for-profit health insurance.

Companies that spend 100s of $Ms on their employees' health plans ($12K/year avg for family of four, with $9K paid by the employer) will love to cancel the employer health plan when the public plan is available. What corp CEO/CFO wouldn't love to do that ASAP?

It's pretty clear that a public health plan would devastate the private health insurance companies with REAL compe ion. Killing private insurers back to selling to the super-rich would be wonderful. It's about time the private insurers get ed the way they've been ing their clients.

Private insurance has been ing themselves already by pricing themselves out of reach for millions since the late 1990s, a trend which is accelerating now as 10M+ unemployed unable to afford their mortgages, never mind health insurance.

Nobody is forced to join the public insurance, you can keep letting yourself be gouged by private insurers, even think yourself as too good for the hated govt's insurance.

[FaithInOne]

And the quality of this future health care?

Why are illegal immigrants always included in this 47 million uninsured figure?

[Winehole23]

Why are illegal immigrants always included in this 47 million uninsured figure?

Maybe because people who live here use our clinics and hospitals on an as needed basis, without regard to citizenship?

[boutons_deux]

"the quality of this future health care?" the same medical system delivers care, it's only the insurer that changes.

[LnGrrrR]

Like I said, Obama can go on the lecture circuit like Gore and make millions talking to his koolaid drinkers.

Right, but he can do that WITHOUT growing the government. See my point? Or do you think he has to, to go on the lecture circuit? If so, I respectfully disagree.

[coyotes_geek]

"Is that non-profit public health insurance plan going to charge people what it actually costs to provide coverage for them?"

For-profit insurance doesn't, why would public insurance? Do you have any clue how insurance works?

120M people have polled as supporting a public insurance option. That's a pool of PAYING insurees bigger than any for-profit health insurance.

Companies that spend 100s of $Ms on their employees' health plans ($12K/year avg for family of four, with $9K paid by the employer) will love to cancel the employer health plan when the public plan is available. What corp CEO/CFO wouldn't love to do that ASAP?

It's pretty clear that a public health plan would devastate the private health insurance companies with REAL compe ion. Killing private insurers back to selling to the super-rich would be wonderful. It's about time the private insurers get ed the way they've been ing their clients.

Private insurance has been ing themselves already by pricing themselves out of reach for millions since the late 1990s, a trend which is accelerating now as 10M+ unemployed unable to afford their mortgages, never mind health insurance.

Nobody is forced to join the public insurance, you can keep letting yourself be gouged by private insurers, even think yourself as too good for the hated govt's insurance.

Right. There's a $40 trillion dollar gap in medicare funding but the good old government isn't going to gouge anyone.