Spurs should trade Ginobili....

[SouthTexasRancher]

I don't give a about what Pop says... He needs to go to... so does Buck Harvey...

Heart doesn't count when its wrapped up in a bandaid sitting in a in chair...

Nice guys finish last..rebuild this damn team and move the on.

Yeah we all want to end up like the Clippers, Kings and the T-Wolves. You're the one who should be traded to Timbuktu.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Just read my post again. My point was to compare that position to those that believe Manu could be traded for players who improve the Spurs in the short-term AND the long-term. If someone believes that the championship window is closed, then one could reasonably argue for moving aging assets to obtain younger pieces.

I have a problem with those who believe that there is a realistic Manu trade out there that makes the Spurs an elite contender in the short term and improves long term prospects as well. I don't believe such a trade is possible.

I have stated my own position on the subject of trading Manu in several threads. I believe his current value is little more than as an expiring contract. Between now and the trade deadline his value can significantly increase, but cannot significantly decrease. Barring a Gasol type "stupid" trade, the Spurs should keep Manu this summer and see how he and TD are able to play this season. At the trade deadline they will be in a much better position to decide on the best course of action to pursue with Manu. They will have at least four possible options:

1. Trade at trade deadline
2. Sign to an extension
3. Sign and trade next summer
4. Let his contract expire and use the cap space to sign a FA

I read your post and agree with all of your points. My comment was regarding people who think that trading Manu for whatever younger talent is justifiable because we're no longer an elite team. And this is a ridiculous assumption at this moment, maybe next summer or at the january trade deadline, at the earliest, but deffinitely not now.

I believe we'll be an elite team for as long as the big 3 are healthy and there is no point in breaking a successful core, just adding pieces. What happens after 2012 is of no importance right now.

[manu the best]

I don't give a about what Pop says... He needs to go to... so does Buck Harvey...

Heart doesn't count when its wrapped up in a bandaid sitting in a in chair...

Nice guys finish last..rebuild this damn team and move the on.

just wait and see .. when MANU will avg. 20+ ppg next season .. you will shut the up ..



MANU=

[manu the best]

That's it. I'm sending SequSpur a friend request. He better accept!!

steven=gay ...

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

I don't give a about what Pop says... He needs to go to... so does Buck Harvey...

Heart doesn't count when its wrapped up in a bandaid sitting in a in chair...

Nice guys finish last..rebuild this damn team and move the on.

Cutting nose off to spite face forum.

[Sean Cagney]

Trade him for fukkin who? Who will be near a healthy GINOBILIIIIIIIIII if we trade him? Get the fukk outta here, we will not get equal value for the great Gino.


Gino they were saying as early as last year as the second best SG in the game, I swear so many said that early on (07-08), now trade him? For who? Give me Wade okay, Give me someone who can be elite when healthy okay, but no scrub role player..

[jjktkk]

Very grateful that real, knowledgable, Spurs fans know that Sequ Spur never has a clue about how the Spurs should make any personnel moves. Thank the heavens Sequ your pointless rants are limited to just ST. That way only us ST's know how what a ass you make of yourself.

[jjktkk]

BTW Sequ, I thought you were retired from ST. Come on just go!!!! I'll send you a retirement gold watch. Just go somewhere Bro.

[Cherry]

Wake up people. We will not get equal value for him. Manu give up money this team, come off the bench for this team and he's working everyday for get in shape ASAP.

We need good role players rigth now.

[mookie2001]

I don't give a about what Pop says... He needs to go to... so does Buck Harvey...

Heart doesn't count when its wrapped up in a bandaid sitting in a in chair...

Nice guys finish last..rebuild this damn team and move the on.

listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what hes talking about.

[silk]

Now if we can have have bosh for manu and oberto, that's the kind of ridiculous offer we'd have to say yes

But the spurs without manu, don't know, i'm not a spurs fans because of san antonio, but because of the player san antonio has, and without manu, san antonio coud lose some fans

but heck, goal is to win games, not fans....

[Spurtacus]

I'm torn on this. Ginobili, as we've seen the past two offseasons, makes us a contender for the championship. Without him we have no chance. But, his ankle continues to worry me. At what point will the Spurs begin rebuilding with youth around Duncan and Parker?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The bottom line to me is simple. If you are going to trade him be careful where he's landing. The worst case scenario would be to a contender that becomes better overnight with him. He's a professional. He will play his best on any team if his health allows him to.

Still I don't think under what scenario a trade like this would happen. It just doesn't make sense for the value and what he's getting paid now.

[ducks]

the bottom line to me is simple. If you are going to trade him be careful where he's landing. The worst case scenario would be to a contender that becomes better overnight with him. He's a professional. He will play his best on any team if his health allows him to.

Still i don't think under what scenario a trade like this would happen. It just doesn't make sense for the value and what he's getting paid now.

if his health
that is a big big big big if

[antgomez2009]

I don't give a about what Pop says... He needs to go to... so does Buck Harvey...

Heart doesn't count when its wrapped up in a bandaid sitting in a in chair...

Nice guys finish last..rebuild this damn team and move the on.

cmon on bra, if he is actually worth caron butler (proven vet still not ginobili ) and a lottery pick # 5 to be exact, then he still got some left in his tank. the man can hoop, and for being in the number 3 spot this year after an injury plagued year for the Spurs, thats not bad at all. A couple moves here and there, withou involving the big three, should take the spurs to elite status! But they have to make some moves to get a REAL CENTER, and a one or two young hard working with great potential indviduals. Its not over yet homie, Tim still playing, and your opinion is your opinion, but the obvious is that with Tim at the helm, you never out a championship run! Still had hope this season, just cut alot shorter then usual! Bonner, mason and gooden laid an egg this postseason! Tim and tony held it down, especailly timmy, on one leg, still going at them boi's, you got to resepct that!! ya dig

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I'm sure Manu is reading Spurstalk right now...

[SequSpur]

Wake up people. We will not get equal value for him. Manu give up money this team, come off the bench for this team and he's working everyday for get in shape ASAP.

We need good role players rigth now.

are you related to Ducks or Dr. Seuss?

[phxspurfan]

Seeing Manu in another NBA uniform would break my heart.




...and I was one who started a thread about trading Manu for Tayshaun Prince.


...and later started a thread about trading Manu and Tony for Dirk and Bass.

[ducks]

Seeing Manu in another NBA uniform would break my heart.




...and I was one who started a thread about trading Manu for Tayshaun Prince.


...and later started a thread about trading Manu and Tony for Dirk and Bass.

:wgaf:
you trade him if you can get better
regardless if your heart is broken
manu knows it is a business

[ducks]

Trade him for fukkin who? Who will be near a healthy GINOBILIIIIIIIIII if we trade him? Get the fukk outta here, we will not get equal value for the great Gino.


Gino they were saying as early as last year as the second best SG in the game, I swear so many said that early on (07-08), now trade him? For who? Give me Wade okay, Give me someone who can be elite when healthy okay, but no scrub role player..

will manu be a near a healthy ginobobillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll













QUESTION

[ducks]

Hey Ducks how did your mother raise you to be so stupid?

she had your mommy and daddy's help

[phxspurfan]

This thread went south fast.

[Solid D]

This thread went south fast.

This thread started out south. 'Bunch of internet physicians, cyber prophets, and recliner coaches drunk on their own methane fumes who wear Depends so they won't miss any posts on Spurstalk.

[RC's Boss]

This thread started out south. 'Bunch of internet physicians, cyber prophets, and recliner coaches drunk on their own methane fumes who wear Depends so they won't miss any posts on Spurstalk.

[underdawg]

listen to this dude Rufus, he knows what hes talking about.

I agree and I hope you're serious - we could have won a crap more les with players other than mermaid, "no emotion" duncan and elliott - nice guys do finish last.