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  1. #76
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    Marc Gasol ain't no slouch and who knows how much Bynum would have developed without Pau taking shots and minutes. Marc's a much tougher defender than Pau and the Lakers may have ditched their "soft" label.

    But we'll never know, what might have been cuz it didn't happen. We do know, the pre-Pau trade Lakers were considered serious contenders.
    Hurts my eyes reading this .

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    Marc Gasol ain't no slouch and who knows how much Bynum would have developed without Pau taking shots and minutes. Marc's a much tougher defender than Pau and the Lakers may have ditched their "soft" label.

    But we'll never know, what might have been cuz it didn't happen. We do know, the pre-Pau trade Lakers were considered serious contenders.
    Though I see where you're coming from, Marc isn't as polished as Pau offensively (which is his biggest asset as a Laker) and although Bynum has potential (better post moves than Dwight) his injuries have set him back on the offensive side of the ball more than anything IMO....that and foul trouble.

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    Hurts my eyes reading this .
    What do you disagree with?

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    Though I see where you're coming from, Marc isn't as polished as Pau offensively (which is his biggest asset as a Laker) and although Bynum has potential (better post moves than Dwight) his injuries have set him back on the offensive side of the ball more than anything IMO....that and foul trouble.
    Sure, Marc isn't as polished but he's still pretty good. At 12 points (53% shooting), 7 rebounds and 1 block per game, that's impressive.

    A Top 10 NBA Center already and he's a rookie.

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    Marc Gasol ain't no slouch and who knows how much Bynum would have developed without Pau taking shots and minutes. Marc's a much tougher defender than Pau and the Lakers may have ditched their "soft" label.

    But we'll never know, what might have been cuz it didn't happen. We do know, the pre-Pau trade Lakers were considered serious contenders.
    Without Pau, the Lakers were a contender for lottery pick.

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    Without Pau, the Lakers were a contender for lottery pick.
    I think they would still have won the Championship this year if they had Marc instead of Pau, but of course, it's just my opinion..

    Kobe, Lakers looking like serious contenders
    by Sam Smith
    Thursday, January 3, 2008

    But the only thing really hot now is the Lakers, who have surprisingly emerged as a legitimate championship contender with a big front line and, of course, the irrepressible Bryant.

    And now the Lakers, despite being the third-youngest team in the NBA, were competing with everyone in the conference.

    They beat the Suns twice, split with the Spurs and Jazz, blew out the Nuggets. And they had the weapon no one really did in Bryant. There's nothing like the great finisher, especially in the playoffs, when the game slows some and the scores are lower. None of the contenders has a better one than Bryant.

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    Sure, Marc isn't as polished but he's still pretty good. At 12 points (53% shooting), 7 rebounds and 1 block per game, that's impressive.

    A Top 10 NBA Center already and he's a rookie.
    How come the Grizzlies are just a co-winner of championship with so many great players: a top 10 center in Marc Gasol, a top 5 SF in Rudy Gay and a top 5 shooting guard in O.J. Mayo? They should own the championship themselves rather than sharing it with Lakers IMHO.

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    How come the Grizzlies are just a co-winner of championship with so many great players: a top 10 center in Marc Gasol, a top 5 SF in Rudy Gay and a top 5 shooting guard in O.J. Mayo? They should own the championship themselves rather than sharing it with Lakers IMHO.
    Give 'em time, they'll be good.

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    Well for one, the part that insinuates the lakers would be just as good if their 3rd team all-NBA big man got replaced by a rookie.

    For two, the implication that Bynum's development was somehow hindered by Gasol taking away shots and minutes. Bynum was developing fine, only thing that set him back was an unlucky injury.

    And three, the Lakers were NOT considered serious contenders before the Gasol trade. They were considered a good team, not much more. And their season looked basically over when Bynum went down and they went into a tailspin.

    I don't watch the Grizzlies play much , but Marc mutha in Gasol isn't as good a rebounder, passer, scorer than Pau... less skilled, probably not as good defensively, couldn't log the heavy minutes Pau logs, etc.

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    Sure, Marc isn't as polished but he's still pretty good. At 12 points (53% shooting), 7 rebounds and 1 block per game, that's impressive.

    A Top 10 NBA Center already and he's a rookie.
    He's still more of a complementary player than an All-Star calibur big like Pau. His rebounding also helped him to maintain a close to 12-point average.

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    Well for one, the part that insinuates the lakers would be just as good if their 3rd team all-NBA big man got replaced by a rookie.
    I didn't say they would be just as good. But they would be good enough. An All-Star like Pau is a luxury that makes them hands-down better than pretty much any team. Like watering a plant when it's raining.

    Marc Gasol and the Lakers would still be an elite team and a contender.

    For two, the implication that Bynum's development was somehow hindered by Gasol taking away shots and minutes. Bynum was developing fine, only thing that set him back was an unlucky injury.
    Who knows, perhaps Bynum would have developed even more. Certainly possible.

    And three, the Lakers were NOT considered serious contenders before the Gasol trade. They were considered a good team, not much more. And their season looked basically over when Bynum went down and they went into a tailspin.
    Kobe, Lakers looking like serious contenders
    by Sam Smith
    Thursday, January 3, 2008

    But the only thing really hot now is the Lakers, who have surprisingly emerged as a legitimate championship contender with a big front line and, of course, the irrepressible Bryant.

    And now the Lakers, despite being the third-youngest team in the NBA, were competing with everyone in the conference.

    They beat the Suns twice, split with the Spurs and Jazz, blew out the Nuggets. And they had the weapon no one really did in Bryant. There's nothing like the great finisher, especially in the playoffs, when the game slows some and the scores are lower. None of the contenders has a better one than Bryant.

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    Sam Smith can suck my .

    Doubt they would be good enough to win a le with Marc mutha in Gasol. It's not as if they've blown out the Nuggets or Magic. Pau's played very well in the playoffs and its doubtful a rookie could replicate that production in the postseason (or the regular season). the Lakers may not have home court this series if Pau was replaced w/ Marc, etc etc etc.

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    Sam Smith can suck my .

    Doubt they would be good enough to win a le with Marc mutha in Gasol. It's not as if they've blown out the Nuggets or Magic. Pau's played very well in the playoffs and its doubtful a rookie could replicate that production in the postseason (or the regular season). the Lakers may not have home court this series if Pau was replaced w/ Marc, etc etc etc.
    As I said, we'll never know for sure what could have happened.

    But to say they weren't contenders prior to Pau Gasol is just crazy.

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    The Lakers should have packed Bynum with Kwame Brown and shipped them to Memphis, Bynum would have grown faster and stronger, and less injury prone had that happened. Plus that would also make this "trade" more like a trade than a robbery. However, the Lakers just signed a veteran who had almost retired and already been hired as an assistant coach of the 76ers, and patched him onto this package to make the salary matched.

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    As I said, we'll never know for sure what could have happened.

    But to say they weren't contenders prior to Pau Gasol is just crazy.
    contender to what? they were working their asses off trying to gain a ticket for the playoffs, as they had always been doing since Shaq left LA. Actually they were just a contender for either a playoff ticket or a lottery pick, they didn't need to contend though. They could and had to get either one of a lottery pick or a playoff seat.

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    This is ridiculous.

    Without Gasol, you guys lose in the 2nd round to Houston.
    EXACTLY

    YOU TAKE GASOL OUT and teams play the lakers differently

    You take Gasol out and Lakers have to come up with 15-20 PPG nightly.


    LAKERS without GASOL would be out in Round 2.

    Lakers without GASOL is the team Kobe wanted to leave.

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    As I said, we'll never know for sure what could have happened.

    But to say they weren't contenders prior to Pau Gasol is just crazy.

    Dude seriously?

    Tell me what the Lakers did without Gasol ?


    Please

  18. #93
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    Dude seriously?

    Tell me what the Lakers did without Gasol ?


    Please
    Lakers got #1 seed in the West in 2008 prior to the Gasol trade.

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    Lakers got #1 seed in the West in 2008 prior to the Gasol trade.
    For like a couple of days when the Suns/Hornets/Spurs/Mavs/Lakers were playing hot potato with the #1 seed

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