i would trade duncan if it meant that the spurs would be better
it it meant a championship trade the whole en team
its the name in front of the jersey that counts
I would never trade Ginobili. I know he's going to be 100 percent healthy this year and a force to be reckoned with.
i would trade duncan if it meant that the spurs would be better
it it meant a championship trade the whole en team
its the name in front of the jersey that counts
I'd only do a trade with the wiz involving manu and the 5th pick if it included caron butler. We could grab Hill with the 5th pick and resign Manu the following season, but I'm sure this senario has already been discussed, just wanted to throw my 2 sense out there![]()
Yeah, I think this is everyone's pipe dream, but I can't see it happening unfortunately
If you get Butler, there's no cap room in 2010 to sign Manu back. That only works with the stated trade where E Thomas and James roll off the books in 2010.
Yeah. Very typical. Bury good players overseas also. Its a toss up with the manu trade. My instict says keep manu but if he gets hurt again we will be kicking ourselves wondering whatif. Nick young can ball. Flat out. But manu if healthy can put washington at another level wheb gilbert the gunner returns
Caron would have to be involved for the spurs to even touch that. But Caron would be nice in a spurs uni
Manu is NOT THAT GOOD. Not even in a fantasy world would a healthy Ginobili be worth Caron Butler AND the 5th pick; nevermind that we're talking about a one-legged Manu in this scenario.
Manu will win you more games than butler, even though the Butler guy is a very solid player
Manu has something that just puts him above others,
Sometimes i think he's a little like Rocky, inferior on paper, but surpassing the foes when battle is on
It doesn't mean with him we win every games, but that we always have a chance against anyone, even against supposedly superior teams
Caron is less special in that sense
Manu is ten times the player Butler is. Manu is older so that is about the only advange Butler has. I can guarentee that the Wiz would doa Manu for Butler trade without even blinking. Its the Spurs that would not do that without the 5th pick included.
He was an All-NBA player in 2008. Guys who aren't that good don't make the All-NBA team. It's not like we're gearing up for the 2015 season here.
But in terms that even a Laker fan can appreciate, saying Manu "is not that good" is defying the word of your savior Kobe Bryant, who's gone on record as saying not just that Manu is good, but that he is a "bad boy."
I could see, though, why Lakers fans would be thrilled at the propect of the Spurs dealing Ginobili for garbage.
That's what i call a decisive thought experience that should put an end on the debate manu vs butler
How do you know the Wizards would trade Butler for Manu?
Because,
1/ they supposedly already made that offer during last year ( yes, it's speculation, but an high probability one...)
2/ If you're a front office guy, not an espn fantasy mate, you just do this trade ( still speculation but still an high probability one..)
3/ We're not in the realm of knowledge, there's no science here, so i question the questions like "how do you know that x's or y's".
If we want to know, we have to stop coming here till next year, then we'll know for sure
Now it's time for reasonnable speculations i think
Manu is not Butler/5th pick good and Spurs fan is acting like he is. In reality, the Wiz, nor any team in the league would trade Butler for Manu because at this point in their careers Butler is clearly the better player.
I don't think I'm ready to say Butler is CLEARLY the better player right now. But I do think I'm ready to say Butler+5th > Ginobili at this point.
Pains me to say it, but it's true. Worst comes to worst, I'll just cheer for Washington and my main man to beat Cleveland next year![]()
Man this stuff just pisses me off. Manu is a freaking closer - a KO-punch type of guy. He will finish off people. I have no doubt Orlando would have liked to have a guy like him during game 4. He's won absolutely everything anywhere he's been.
Your comparisons are ridiculous. Butler? come on man. Basically if you have half manu on your roster and he's able to play even 10 minutes he would win the game for you most of the time.
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We trade Manu who hasnt done anything for us in the last 2 playoffs,
damn man your stupid ...
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Manu isnt going anywhere! When will it get through ya'lls thick heads?
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