Slam Magazine Top 50 Greatest Players of all time

[Amaso]

Hakeem's career stats:
http://www.basketballreference.com/p...d=OLAJUHA01%20

Kareem's career stats:
http://www.basketballreference.com/p...lkid=ABDULKA01

Hakeem's peak, production-wise, was from 1992-1996. And those numbers are dwarfed by Kareem's numbers in any 4-season span from 1969-1977.

I'm not saying that Kareem's better by any means. Just pointing out that your argument has holes in it.

You can't actually believe what you type. For one, dominant players like Kareem in the 60s/70s will have their stats skewed because he was playing in the early 70's where it would be easier to dominate in an era with less physically dominant players than suppose the 1990s when the average NBA players were hitting their physical peak. Most people take stats way too far into consideration when they're trying to rank players and not enough people take into account the generation in which the players played in. It's dumb for us to compare centers like Shaq/Hakeem to centers like Chamberlain and Russell because they played in different eras.

The only fair way to rank players is by decade or generation.

[Dr. Gonzo]

In due time..

Epic
Lolz

[Killakobe81]

I agree this list is disrespectful to Kareem who is the greatest Laker center and best center I have ever seen. I am too young to have seen wilt or Russell I started watching hoops in 1980 at age 5.

So here is my list ...not in EXACT order but as they came to me ...

Jordan
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Kareem
Hakeem
Kobe
Isiah
Shaq
Stockton
Ewing
Robinson
Barkley
Malone
Moses
Dr.J
Wilkins
Miller
Drexler
McHale
Worthy
Payton
Kidd
Dirk
KG
Pierce
Ray Allen
Allen Iverson

I lso put emphasis on rings and dominant palyoof first and regular season play ...

[TimDuncan>Kobe]

Me too... he's not even a top 4 Laker.

Can I have some of your pot? LA would have 3 fewer championships under its belt sans Shaq.

[The Third Man]

Hakeem's dominance was probably 93-95. Albeit at his peak, I think he was better than guys like Shaq and Duncan.

But it was such a short peak while most of the other guys dominated over a 5-10 year period.

Jesus, as a Lakers fan you of all people should realize he was dominant right away. Check out Kareem's birth certificate- Hakeem is now recognized as his father after what he did to him in the '86 playoffs. He was dominant for a good 12 years, easily.

[SouthTexasRancher]

son I am just trying to get Ghazi's vagina sore

ROTFFLMFAO...!

[baseline bum]

You can't actually believe what you type. For one, dominant players like Kareem in the 60s/70s will have their stats skewed because he was playing in the early 70's where it would be easier to dominate in an era with less physically dominant players than suppose the 1990s when the average NBA players were hitting their physical peak. Most people take stats way too far into consideration when they're trying to rank players and not enough people take into account the generation in which the players played in. It's dumb for us to compare centers like Shaq/Hakeem to centers like Chamberlain and Russell because they played in different eras.

The only fair way to rank players is by decade or generation.

Kareem's compe ion in his prime was Wilt, Willis Reed, Dave Cowens, and Bill Walton. It's not like he was going against scrubs.

[Allanon]

Jesus, as a Lakers fan you of all people should realize he was dominant right away. Check out Kareem's birth certificate- Hakeem is now recognized as his father after what he did to him in the '86 playoffs. He was dominant for a good 12 years, easily.

I'll be the first to admit, I don't really know jack about 80's and early 90's basketball.

I only started watching basketball casually around 93 I think as a kid.

So I'll take your word for it.

[Amaso]

Kareem's compe ion in his prime was Wilt, Willis Reed, Dave Cowens, and Bill Walton. It's not like he was going against scrubs.

Willis Reed and Dave Cowens would be too small to play center in today's NBA. I think they were both 6'8 or 6'9 and like 235 lbs. I'm not diminishing Kareem or his career achievements. I was saying I would take Hakeem in his prime over Kareem in his prime but as I said earlier I could see how some people rank Kareem higher because of his entire career accomplishments.

[Sissiborgo]

Allen Iverson suckS!

[Spursfan092120]

where is Pistol Pete on that list?

I loved Pete. If he had been drafted a Celtic, he would have been an all time top 5. Celtics at that time, knew how to play team ball, and Atlanta and New Orleans just wanted him as a sideshow. Sad situation...he could have been the best ever.

[Spursfan092120]

To say that Shaq belongs at the 4 spot, ahead of Robertson, Duncan, Magic, Kareem, or a BUNCH of players that are below him, is completely ludicrous.

[Brazil]

Iverson is overated

[mavs>spurs2]

Shaq > Duncan

[robbie380]

I'll be the first to admit, I don't really know jack about 80's and early 90's basketball.

I only started watching basketball casually around 93 I think as a kid.

So I'll take your word for it.

you should check out that series if you get a chance on espn classic if it ever comes on. dream was a monster. i really hate this revisionist history that forgets how awesome dream was leading up to his peak championship years. the guy was stuck on some ty teams for years after that 86 finals team imploded from injuries and drugs.

[Nathan Explosion]

Shaq > Duncan

Duncan has a higher winning percentage in the regular season and post season compared to Shaq.

Duncan- Reg% .712 Post% .631
Shaq- Reg% .672 Post% .601

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...2&sportCat=nba

Source, Elias Sports Bureau

Shaq was more domninant in his prime, but Duncan had staying power. Duncan won more and is therefore a better player. Especially considering Shaq played many years alongside Kobe.

[mavs>spurs2]

Duncan has a higher winning percentage in the regular season and post season compared to Shaq.

Duncan- Reg% .712 Post% .631
Shaq- Reg% .672 Post% .601

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...2&sportCat=nba

Source, Elias Sports Bureau

Shaq was more domninant in his prime, but Duncan had staying power. Duncan won more and is therefore a better player. Especially considering Shaq played many years alongside Kobe.

I don't care about your stats. Shaq as a player > Duncan as a player

[Spursfan092120]

I don't care about your stats. Shaq as a player > Duncan as a player

I call total bull on that. What does Shaq have that Timmy doesn't? Where is Shaq's jumpshot? Shaq's bigger...Timmy's better.

[EmantheSpursFan]

Tim took down shaq in his prime in 1999...

[urunobili]

lol Shaq ahead of TD

[mavs>spurs2]

Shaq ahead of TD

[urunobili]

[Shank]

Shaq ahead of TD

Take off the Spurs homer glasses. Shaq was dominant.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kareem is severely underrated..

Oscar Robertson is the most overrated player of all-time IMO..being ahead of Magic is ridiculous..

Shaq is too high..

Bird is too low..

Elgin Baylor is also very overrated..

David Robinson is way too low, so is KG..

Iverson shouldn't be ahead of Drexler or Lebron..

Nash does deserve to be on it, he has 2 MVPs..you can criticize him all you want, but you can't take that away from him..

[resistanze]

Nash does deserve to be on it, he has 2
MVPs..you can criticize him all you want, but you can't take that away from him..

No one's taking that away from him, but doesn't mean he's in the Top 50. If they give Matter Bonner the MVP for the next 3 MVPs, he still wouldn't crack my top 50.