He's a great player, I love the guy, I only have two jerseys, Ginobili being one of them. I dont understand all this hate on people that are suggesting he be traded. Unless you have a crystal ball and can tell with certainty he's going to be 100% next year, trading him for two young promising players is something that has to be considered.
If Ginobili is 100% next year he is definitely far more valuable to our team than anyone we could pick up through trade and or draft. A 100% ginobili is a dangerous thing.
However, it's been a while since we've seen Ginobili at 100%, and 100% Ginobili these days is no longer 2005 form. Seeing what's out there for him is just good business, why put all our eggs in one basket and just pray for him to return to form?
Whether he stays or goes, i hate seeing people called fake fans because they suggest a trade.
Choosing loyalty over reason often times leaves you holding the bag in the end.
What 'two young promising players' that we could get for Ginobili and that would put us over the top do you suggest?
I don't think realistically that trade exists. The only way to that would exist is some team offering a 'stupid trade', as Pop put it. It's simply not realistic to sit down and wait for such trade to come around.
So, again, what two young guys we could get that would put us over the top, realistically speaking (salary wise, etc).
First and foremost you don't just kick someone out who was extremely instrumental in bringing your team 3 Championship Trophy's! Second, Manu is better than anyone else out there in his salary range. And third, you give the guy the benefit of the doubt at this point in time, especially since expert doctors say he should be fine.
Maybe you'd be happier being a bandwagon fan for another team and/or player.
Well, in order for a trade to happen many things have to match, salary, etc. But as elnono said above I don't see Popovich letting him go unless they get a "Pau Gasol-type" trade which would be considered a steal and would mark the next season as a * one. Other than that, I'm not sure.
because he makes a fa couple shots at the end of the game
mostly free throws
and he is the one that gets the credit with the win
Because people are already coming to the conclusion that he's finished (when we can't say if he is or isn't) and ready to make stupid trades that make no sense for one or both of the teams involved just to get rid of him.
Tony got a lot of love this season. You should be proud and happy, not bitter and jealous.
But whatever floats your boat.
I answer the question
you are the one trying to start the manu vs tp debate not me
Nah, Im quite happy has a bandwagon fan of the spurs. 15 years strong and counting. Maybe one day i'll be as cool you, and be considered a real fan.
What's everyone on this board going to be saying if Ginobili doesn't come back to form next season? What if he goes down again and we're stuck holding the bag with damaged goods.
Now's our opportunity. We can choose to keep him, and pray. Or take advantage of the value he has now, and pray. Either way it's bad business to not first consider both options heavily. The path we choose will most likely impact our team for years to come.
I'm not starting any debate, because I personally don't think there's anything to debate. We need all of Manu, Tony and Timmy to have a chance.
You're the one that thinks the only thing Manu does is make free throws to win and take all the credit, when that's obviously not true.
Again, whatever floats your boat.
What if we trade him and the youngsters don't pan out. We end up wasting TD's final years, while Manu ends up being fine and winning a couple more in LA or Cleveland?
The coin can land on either face. It's a gamble no matter what you do. The question is what's the most likely scenario... And to be honest, I have not seen any promising young prospects actually have an impact on a championship team for years...
I mean, Lebron made an impact on the league overall, but he's still looking to win his first.
what happens if we do not trade him and he gets hurt again
james did not have a team like the spurs
manu is a one time allstar
a borderline allstar
spurs do not need a superstar
a borderline allstar only
part of it is there are a lot of argentinian posters who arent real fans, theyre fans of one player and kori and timvp let them run the show
its also his skin color, sad but true
Same thing that happens if we DO trade him and the youngsters don't pan out.
I mean, we had two youngsters this season, Mason and Hill.
I think the results speak for themselves...
yeah he speaks spanish so he is gold
who says they would be youngsters?
could be the same age
pop admitted his mistake of not playing hill
hopefully he will learn from playing younger players in playoffs
I'm still waiting for the 'two promising youngsters' that will put us over the top...
So far is the same old bickering...
So, who? I mean, you have it all figured out...
Who are we getting, and why would the other team do it?
still waiting to be convinced a healthy manu with this team will win it all
i trade his ass, if it keeps us compe ive for the next 10yrs, maybe groom someone to take over the team when duncan retires or parker decides to bolt.
We need more than a healthy Manu to win it all. We need a healthy Tim, and we need more and better pieces around.
I'm still waiting to be convinced how trading Manu improves our chances to get over the top in the next two seasons.
rumor is out suns are listening to cavs
and basically cavs are getting shaq for nothing but expiring contracts and picks
with the economy the way it is
the spurs expirign contracts are worth alot
and manu is a exciting player (20-25 minutes a game only though) that would help ticket sells
depends on who they get for him
I am not for trading manu for nothing
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