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Kobe couldn't get Lamar Odom to stop smoking weed so this is false.
Kobe would have motivated howard. Just like he motivated Kwame Brown.
Kobe couldn't get Lamar Odom to stop smoking weed so this is false.
Thus, Howard would've quit on the team no matter who was on it.
when someone deamnds doubleteams like Kobe does....the other players (Howard, Terry, Harris) are gonna be crazy good.
So i guess you have never watched a Mavs game?
ever since GS back in 2007 teams have doubled Dirk and the failure of this team is due to the lack of players other than Dirk being able to step up when he constantly receives double teams....
Ceteris Paribus, Kobe's skills would not have made the Mavs contenders in place of Dirk over the last 2 years. Obviously a better team, but there's too many construction flaws that have reared their head the past 2 years (poor FTA/FGA ratio, top 5 3PA bottom 5 3P%, mediocre defense, last in league in points in paint) and the talent gap between Dirk/Kobe certainly would not repair all of this.
You could get into unsubstantiated speculations such as: 1. Terry would have performed better in playoffs due to Kobe 2. Howard would not have quit 3. The offensive floor spacing would be better with Kobe instead of Dirk's unorthodox style 4. Mavs defensive intensity as a team would rise with Kobe instead of Dirk 5. Kobe would introduce a culture and swagger Dirk's personality doesn't provide.
etc etc
But those are speculations I won't lose much sleep over, especially since some of them are re ed (pinning Howard quitting on Dirk's personality)... and therefore I won't lose much sleep over the best PF in the ing game not getting traded.
Again I'm assuming ceteris mutha in paribus when I say Kobe would not have taken the Mavs to an elite level in place of dirk over the last few years.
Gooooo Dirk
At least out 2 guard hole would've been filled.
This is true, although a gaping hole at PF would be created.
As it turns out Bass may be an okay starting 4 in the league, but that could not have been anticipated at the time due to how terrible he was with the bas stepchild of a franchise known as the New Orleans Hornets.
I'm not sure why this deal would have been on the table. The incentive for the Mavs was marginal and what would the incentive be for the Lakers... who were a 42 win team inheriting a lesser player of the same age?
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Wow so you even think that would be doing the world a favor. That's sad.
Did the Mavs have talent like Gasol, Bynum, and Odom to go with that trade? Nope. It would've been the same story of Dallas falling short. We get a jerk as a leader instead of the humble Nowitzki.
My points are irrefutable.all other things held constant, Kobe in place of Dirk would not have won the Mavs a le the past 2 years, arguably wouldn't have even got them farther in the playoffs than they have.
To suggest that it does implies that Dirk's stats exaggerate his impact on a game or that his style of play/demeanor holds team mates like Howard/Terry back.
But I doubt this
It's not that Dirk is equal or better than Kobe, it's just that the Mavs talent level has been far off from championship caliber the last 2 years.
Goooooo Dirk
I have to defend the Mavericks decision, Dirk had just won MVP and led them to the NBA finals. Though, I guess Cuban could have undervalued the impact that having Kobe would bring.
What put the Lakers over the top was the Gasol trade, I highly doubt Memphis would trade Gasol for a bag of peanuts if Kobe wasn't in LA.
I like Dirk and he's a cool dude and all. But the Mavs will never win it all with Dirk as the #1 guy.
Dirk's like Pau, extremely skilled but should never be the Man on a team if you want to win a Ring.
Except he's way better than Pau.
Kobe needed a legit #2 guy to at least win a playoff series. Kobe wouldnt have won by himself without Gasol. Dirk needs a legit #2 just like Kobe did...give Dirk a Gasol-like player and winning a le isnt out of hte question. J-Ho is Dirk's #2 guy and
Gasol>>>>>>>>>>>>J-Ho
Probably it should have been Carter rather than Kidd shipped to Dallas.
No way Kobe wins an NBA Championship with Erik Dampier and Brandon Bass as his big men.
From my understanding, it's all moot anyways, because Kobe never would've approved a swap to Dallas for Dirk. He had veto power and he made it clear that he wanted to team up with Dirk, not go to war with Josh Howard and Jason Terry. Still, it's not good that the front office turned that down. It makes you question a lot of things.
the lakers demanded kobe for dirk and howard. basically nothing was going to happen
kobe to mavs changes nothing that year, youd be a fool to think otherwise. kobe wouldnt have made anything happen with jason terry/howard.
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