Letterman's Palin Joke Costs CBS an Advertiser, Spawns Campaign for His Firing

[whottt]

Iranians. Specifically the ones who either fled or are the children of those that fled when Iran went hole about 1979.


Which was better, being an ally of the United States or being an Islamic Nation?


That is easily answsered...so therefore you should have supported everything America was doing in the ME to undermine the Iranian regime and restore Iran to non- hole status.

I like historic Iran, BTW, as an anthropologist it's one of the more interesting regions of the world both culturally and religiously...


But that's no excuse for shooting yourself in the foot.


The best thing that could happen to Iran as a Nation would be for the US to have gone in there and toppled that regime or undermined it covertly(which I have no doubt they have been attempting to do the entire time we have been in Iraq).


I know some guys that fled from Iran as well...they say the exact same things you do, they also ed to an extent about the US presence in the ME.


Those are contradictory positions that make no sense.

[whottt]

You just need to understand idiot, that Iran was every bit the ally Israel was until the Islamic revolution.

And the next Iranian I meet that thinks Iran is better off now than it was then will be the first, so therefore you guys should shut the up and stop ing about the US Govt in the ME and alliance with Israel and about the Iranian one that turned it into a hole and an enemy of the US.





There are no true Islamic states that are non- holes, in fact they are the worst humanitarian holes on the planet right now, they all need to go.

[sook]

We have no business in the middle east.

That place is ed.

Iran.

Israel.

The problem I have with Israel is that they have a deranged foreign policy that comes

back to bite us in the ass because they depend on us so heavilly financially. they do

invokes hatred for the U.S around the world, , even the brits have questioned Israel,

so why are we so afraid of them, especially when we support them so much?



Want my proposition?

We need to stay the out of the ME. I am sure that Israel is more than capable of maintaining stability, they can do whatever the they want, I just can't stand the fact that it is our image that is tarnished each time.

[sook]

Ahh whottt, you are every bit as naive as i suspected.

You honestly believe that Iran would be every bit the ally?

You honestly believe we would donate billions of dollars/weapons to them?

Does the lobby they have here make no difference?

The fact is that there is an unconditional support when in fact there should be none.

Quit taking sides. That is the essence of the problem and heads like you sodomize and exponentially worsen the condition with your twisted phillosophy.

[Winehole23]

There are no true Islamic states that are non- holes, in fact they are the worst humanitarian holes on the planet right now, they all need to go.

In a gesture of humanitarian empathy, we should ruthlessly *eliminate* all holes. By your definition this includes all *true islamic states*.

Would you mind naming the countries you want to *vanish from the page of history*, for the record?

[sook]

Neocons of this date aren't human. They can't be.


There is no justification for such flawed and immoral logic.

They are either purposely acting like this to bask in the attention or they really are this corrupted.


Just because we have the capability, we should just blow them all up. That sounds real good.

[whottt]

You overlook the fact that if we aren't in the ME, someone else will be, see WWI and WWII for proof of this. Because the countries are too small and to fend off the massive foreign powers and too wealthy for the foreign powers to just let them be. Not to mention the powers seekers that want to ride Islam to the Ottoman throne.

I disagree with your assessment that region of the world is inherently ed...that region of the world is ed because of what the European powers did to it.

The region of the world did not itself up...

I'd generally agree with you that we should stay out of it, but we can't do undo that decision now. We already went into it, and once we went into it it was the chance to un that region of the world.


You are never going to defeat the Israelies with violence...



You don't agree with the military option? Fair enough...then about that government like your fellow Iranians are doing, about it more then you about the US.

[whottt]

In a gesture of humanitarian empathy, we should ruthlessly *eliminate* all holes. By your definition this includes all *true islamic states*.

Would you mind naming the countries you want to *vanish from the page of history*, for the record?

#1. Pakistan
#2. Saudi Arabia
#3. Iran

Quite a few countries in Africa.

Oh, and Argentina.

[sook]

You overlook the fact that if we aren't in the ME, someone else will be, see WWI and WWII for proof of this. Because the countries are too small and to fend off the massive foreign powers and too wealthy for the foreign powers to just let them be. Not to mention the powers seekers that want to ride Islam to the Ottoman throne.

I disagree with your assessment that region of the world is inherently ed...that region of the world is ed because of what the European powers did to it.

The region of the world did not itself up...

I'd generally agree with you that we should stay out of it, but we can't do undo that decision now. We already went into it, and once we went into it it was the chance to un that region of the world.


You are never going to defeat the Israelies with violence...

You don't agree with the military option? Fair enough...then about that government like your fellow Iranians are doing, about it more then you about the US.

That right there says it all. You truly demonstrate a vacuous understanding of the problem.


You honestly believe that it's the Israelis that are being inflicted with violence?

This is not a one way street my friend, and I can tell you right now, violence is key to the Israeli foreign relations as they need to flex their muscles and invoke terror.

[whottt]

Neocons of this date aren't human. They can't be.


There is no justification for such flawed and immoral logic.

They are either purposely acting like this to bask in the attention or they really are this corrupted.


Just because we have the capability, we should just blow them all up. That sounds real good.

Um...I only support the absolute destruction option if an American city gets nuked and I only support that against the govt that was behind it, which will most likely be the Saudis.

What do you propose is a better solution? Let some assholes seize a country and impose their will on a majority?


Why back down to the thugs? The thugs will win if you do that.

[sook]

The whole seige of Gaza is a testament to the fact. Thats ok though, Israel is in fact quite threatened by toy rockets that they need to stir up a humanitarian crisis killing 1000+ people, even "Accidentally" firing upon U.N buildings.

[sook]

Um...I only support the absolute destruction option if an American city gets nuked and I only support that against the govt that was behind it, which will most likely be the Saudis.

What do you propose is a better solution? Let some assholes seize a country and impose their will on a majority?


Why back down to the thugs? The thugs will win if you do that.

You just said all the islamic hole nations need to be eradicated.


But the Saudis really? You do realize that they are in fact the most arrogant people on the planet? They don't give a about Israel or Palestine if you hadn't realized. They are fine with all the money they get from oil.


I guarantee you North Korea is more of a threat, since they already threatened us.

[whottt]

That right there says it all. You truly demonstrate a vacuous understanding of the problem.


You honestly believe that it's the Israelis that are being inflicted with violence?

This is not a one way street my friend, and I can tell you right now, violence is key to the Israeli foreign relations as they need to flex their muscles and invoke terror.

Right...and if they attack them with suicide bombs, parrticularly their civillians, they come off as bunch of crazy savage assholes.

It's like no one in the ME was paying attention to Ghandi or Martin Luther King or something.

[sook]

Right...and if they attack them with suicide bombs, parrticularly their civillians, they come off as bunch of crazy savage assholes.

It's like no one in the ME was paying attention to Ghandi or Martin Luther King or something.

You ever tried looking at it from another's perspective?

When you live in a ghetto with a tank in your backyard and nothing to live for, then tell me how passive and happy you are.

In all honesty, there is no justification for suicide bombers but it is easier to understand why they do it when you look at their conditions.

[whottt]

You just said all the islamic hole nations need to be eradicated.

They do. And replaced with representative govt. Ought to be fairly easy since it was invented there.

But the Saudis really? You do realize that they are in fact the most arrogant people on the planet? They don't give a about Israel or Palestine if you hadn't realized. They are fine with all the money they get from oil.

I realize that, I also realize that they have gross unemployment, inspite of a load of mineral wealth and their unemployed are crawling up our ass and blowing up our buildings.

They need to go.

I guarantee you North Korea is more of a threat, since they already threatened us.

Yeah well...no one really gives a about North Korea if you want to know the truth about it. Except for the South Koreans.

[sook]

They do. And replaced with representative govt. Ought to be fairly easy since it was invented there.



I realize that, I also realize that they have gross unemployment, inspite of a load of mingeral wealth and their unemployed are crawling up our ass and blowing up our buildings.

They need to go.



Yeah well...no one really gives a about North Korea if you want to know the truth about it.

I wouldn't expect a more ignorant response. When faced with a dillemma, the simple answer must always be that no body gives a about it.


That must have really gotten you places in life whottt.

[SnakeBoy]

I actually forgot how gorgeous Palin was....I think she's gotten even hotter since the election. Saw her the other day with her hair down......eeegads. That's one M I L F.

She's thinner now, remember she had just had a kid back then.

[whottt]

You ever tried looking at it from another's perspective?

When you live in a ghetto with a tank in your backyard and nothing to live for, then tell me how passive and happy you are.

In all honesty, there is no justification for suicide bombers but it is easier to understand why they do it when you look at their conditions.

Um...if I live in a Ghetto the first thing I am going to do is want the GOVT overthrown.

That is human nature, and only a problem when you finally get enough people living in a Ghetto to actually do it. If you do have enough people to do it, you probably need to be overthrown, and if you stay in power through brutality, you really need to go.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

We should just nuke Islam.

[SnakeBoy]

i can't believe you think this is actually good for Palin.

There's a few things Palin needs to do in order to have a chance at 2012. One of them is stop the media from continuing to treat her as a punchline. At first, the liberal media was treating it like a joke. Now she's got Letterman begging for forgiveness and organizations like NOW taking her side. , even Whoopi & Behar on the View are taking her side. She's doing a good job, she's a smart politician.

Your side has history of dismissing your opponent as stupid and under estimating them...and then losing to them.

[whottt]

Seriously, you'd think they'd have figured that one out after 8 years of attempting it with Bush.

[SnakeBoy]

she's a smart politician.

McCain...not so much.

[SnakeBoy]

Seriously, you'd think they'd have figured that one out after 8 years of attempting it with Bush.

And Reagan.

[whottt]

I wouldn't expect a more ignorant response. When faced with a dillemma, the simple answer must always be that no body gives a about it.


That must have really gotten you places in life whottt.

Eh...North Korea is a huge hole, they are also just about impossible to defeat due to the countries that want them there and their geogrpahical proximity to them. Plus, the South Koreans are kind of bags about us being there. Anyway, at least you can see why they are a hole. Similar with Pakistan and Syria.


Saudi and Iran have no excuse for being holes. They are among the wealthiest countries in the world and still they are holes. I'd have to say Iran and Saudi have the most incompetent and corrupt governments in the world right now. Their incompetence combined with their corruption makes them much more worthy of being taken out than North Korea which is merely corrupt.

The only reason Pakistan made my list as #1 is because they are IMHO the biggest non-African hole in the entire world, and they got nukes, an unstable govt, and bunch of ers crazy enough to actually nuke the US in the name of Islam.

[sabar]

#1. Pakistan
#2. Saudi Arabia
#3. Iran

Quite a few countries in Africa.

Oh, and Argentina.

Maps correlate well with regimes that should be obliterated for the better of humanity as shown below.

The entire problem with the middle east has been from one thing: european imperialism. The UK/France/Dutch/Etc went in at various times and staked claims from basic things like agriculture to the much coveted oil. The result is the region has been decimated from foreign influence and they hate everyone outside now. The cold war and WW2 made things even worse as much needed oil reserves were located in the countries. With outside sources like the USSR and US later influencing who came to power in these countries, it pretty much seeded what was needed for charismatic dictators to rise to power in defiance of the "foreigners".

Plus the entire debacle that was the creation of Isreal.

What can we do? Who knows. We are probably screwed whether we let them fight each other or if we guide diplomacy ourselves. What's funny is that europeans that criticize the US for what we do in the middle east are the ones who started this entire mess in the first place.


Degree of democracy



Contains State religion


Colonization by an empire. North Africa and the ME have had a crapload of foreigners take their stuff, they were easily swayed by dictators.



Cold War influences