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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    on national security and the economy:


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    Feel free to add your own.
    No unecessary wars started.

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    No unecessary wars started.

    Just continued.


    Someone mentioned no terrorist attacks on US soil. Well, not counting the murders of an abortion doctor and a guard at the Holocaust museum (thank's Keith Olbermann). No terrorist attacks on US soil is actually a good thing.

    No one mentioned a surge (of sorts) in Afghanistan. I think this is positive.

    People keep mentioning that he's only been POTUS for 6 months. While this is true, it must be pointed out that in those 6 months, he has made numerous changes in the financial sector, for better or worse. He also has plans for radical changes in the fields of health care and energy, neither of which I agree with. His admin is taking on more in 6 months than I've ever witnessed by a POTUS in my lifetime.

    If he really has improved the "image" of the POTUS, then I suppose that is a good thing too. It's my opinion that it's not "arrogant" for a POTUS to aggressively and unapologetically pursue the best interests of the US.

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    a lot more respect for out country around the world, thats a no brainer.

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    a lot more respect for out country around the world, thats a no brainer.
    Really? From whom? North Korea is taunting us. Israel is ignoring us. China is warning us. Europe is lecturing us. I'm certain that there's global joy about Bush being gone, but it seems to me like the rest of the world is seeing Obama as someone they can push around. That's not respect.

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    respect is what you get after getting an apology from slanderers like David Letterman.

    Obama should take note.

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    respect is what you get after getting an apology from slanderers like David Letterman.

    Obama should take note.


    That is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

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    driving the wrongies and hate-media to even stinkier, lying, slanderous attacks and characterizations as their "base", and their s, shrink before our eyes.

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    That is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
    naw, trying to dog Obama's supposed lack of accomplishments 6 months into office is easily stupider.

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    naw, trying to dog Obama's supposed lack of accomplishments 6 months into office is easily stupider.
    I came up with more positives than you did.

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    His admin is taking on more in 6 months than I've ever witnessed by a POTUS in my lifetime.

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    I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about Obama.
    Oh, with your post I thought it was just about bashing our non-favorite political characters blindly and one-sidedly. My mistake.

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    Really? From whom? North Korea is taunting us. Israel is ignoring us. China is warning us. Europe is lecturing us. I'm certain that there's global joy about Bush being gone, but it seems to me like the rest of the world is seeing Obama as someone they can push around. That's not respect.
    And if N Korea and China loved us, I'm sure you'd be going on about how we're appeasing them, or how No Korea loves America because they think Obama's weak, or some other spin.

    Let's face it, N Korea has been working on nukes for YEARS now, and China is pissy because they trusted the dollar and got burned. Israel is pissed because we mentioned that we might not back absolutely everything they do. And since when do conservatives care what Europeans think? Oh no, Europe is lecturing us. Boo ing hoo.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    I came up with more positives than you did.
    no you didn't. You just listed a bunch of things Obama has done so far and you clearly stated "for better or worse" in the middle of the post. That in itself makes the point that 6 months is not enough time to judge anything.

    Now 8 years on the other hand is plenty of time to look back on the negatives and failures of a presidency.

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    Someone mentioned no terrorist attacks on US soil. Well, not counting the murders of an abortion doctor and a guard at the Holocaust museum (thank's Keith Olbermann). No terrorist attacks on US soil is actually a good thing.
    You guys are gonna have to make up your mind about whether they should be considered "terrorists" or not. It's pretty amazing to me that even when you're now on the short end of the stick, you still don't grasp the danger inherent in applying this catchall label.

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    You guys are gonna have to make up your mind about whether they should be considered "terrorists" or not. It's pretty amazing to me that even when you're now on the short end of the stick, you still don't grasp the danger inherent in applying this catchall label.

    Timothy McVeigh was a domestic terrorist. These other two incidents were murders by nutjobs.

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    And if N Korea and China loved us, I'm sure you'd be going on about how we're appeasing them, or how No Korea loves America because they think Obama's weak, or some other spin.

    Let's face it, N Korea has been working on nukes for YEARS now, and China is pissy because they trusted the dollar and got burned. Israel is pissed because we mentioned that we might not back absolutely everything they do. And since when do conservatives care what Europeans think? Oh no, Europe is lecturing us. Boo ing hoo.
    So in other words, none of them have any more respect for the U.S. than they did under Bush. Which was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for agreeing with me.

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    Credit Card Holder Bill of Rights - Been in the works for years, but finally passed.

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    Credit Card Holder Bill of Rights - Been in the works for years, but finally passed.
    And there we go. That's a good piece of legislation. Kudos to Obama and the Democrats for passing that.

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    So in other words, none of them have any more respect for the U.S. than they did under Bush. Which was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for agreeing with me.
    Agreed. Individuals within the country may think that the US has changed, and who knows, it might. But the ruling powers don't care.

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    Credit Card Holder Bill of Rights - Been in the works for years, but finally passed.


    That's a good one. I wish they'd let us deduct CC interest from taxable income too.

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    I wish they'd let us deduct CC interest from taxable income too.
    That's a ridiculous idea!

    Yeah, the cc legislation was pretty good.

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    Really? From whom? North Korea is taunting us. Israel is ignoring us. China is warning us. Europe is lecturing us. I'm certain that there's global joy about Bush being gone, but it seems to me like the rest of the world is seeing Obama as someone they can push around. That's not respect.

    Yeah I agree. it seems the rest of the world has pretty much figured the guy is all sizzle with no substance,and some of them realize he's an idiot. It seems that the nation is slowly coming to that realization too as polls show his policies are not popular, despite the medias smoke and mirrors.Unfortunately too many Americans eat the consent being manufactured by the media, or close their eyes and pray that the goverment will take care of them, makes snake handeling look positively scientific.

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    And there we go. That's a good piece of legislation. Kudos to Obama and the Democrats for passing that.
    What, this isn't a socialist anti-capitalist bill? *tongue-in-cheek*

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    What, this isn't a socialist anti-capitalist bill? *tongue-in-cheek*


    See, I don't hate everything he does. Just most of it.

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    Really? From whom? North Korea is taunting us. Israel is ignoring us. China is warning us. Europe is lecturing us.
    How is this different from the Bush years?

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