LA's le makes me appreciate being a Spurs fan..

[Mike Smrek]

Now this cracks me up. The Spurs have had Dennis Rodman, Rod Strickland, George Gervin, Alvin Robertson and a slew of other characters that have questionable pasts. But what about their head coach? Old Popovich stuck a knife in Bob Hills back and fired him right when Robinson was coming back off injury. Talk about a snake in the grass. And to all those who talk about Phil having the best talent, blah, blah, blah...and saying they could have coached those teams to championships...what about the Spurs. Everyone says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play. I could have coached that guy to 6 les by now. Whats Pop's excuse?

Rodman...how the could I forget Rodman?!?! He had San Antonio absolutely eating out of the palm of his hand...

[SteelerNation]

why dont you then?

Your FO doesnt want to win so they wont hire me. These are the same guys who didnt want to give up Mason and Hill for Vince Carter.(along with a large number of Spurs fans) And then ya'll want to turn around and say the Lakers got a steal with Gasol. What do you think that Carter trade would have been for you? Spurs would have definately made it further in the playoffs and could shop Ginobilli right now with Carter being your new wingman. So dont give me all this holier than thou bull when it comes to the Spurs. You've had your chances to upgrade and had plenty of shady dealings and players in your past as well.

[SteelerNation]

Rodman...how the could I forget Rodman?!?! He had San Antonio absolutely eating out of the palm of his hand...

And dont forget they traded Sean to get him. A straight arrow if there ever was one. What does that say about their front office character?

[IronMexican]

the Steelers.

[SteelerNation]

the Steelers.

Someone's gotta be the best.

[HORNSWOGGLE]

And dont forget they traded Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ to get him. A straight arrow if there ever was one. What does that say about their front office character?

[IronMexican]

Someone's gotta be the best.

son the Raiders play the AFC North this year. They gonna smash that ass. Asomugha embarrassed Big Ben back in 2006.

[SteelerNation]

son the Raiders play the AFC North this year. They gonna smash that ass. Asomugha embarrassed Big Ben back in 2006.

Dont go betting on that. You guys have Russell as QB and passed on Crabtree, that should tell you all you need to know. Raiders wont be relevant again for at least another 10-20 years.

[samikeyp]

Watching the Spurs play for 30+ years makes me appreciate being a Spurs fan. Why does it matter what another team does? However, if you believe trying to find flaws with another team's le makes you feel better about how the Spurs did this year...knock yourself out.

[ambchang]

Now this cracks me up. The Spurs have had Dennis Rodman, Rod Strickland, George Gervin, Alvin Robertson and a slew of other characters that have questionable pasts. But what about their head coach? Old Popovich stuck a knife in Bob Hills back and fired him right when Robinson was coming back off injury. Talk about a snake in the grass. And to all those who talk about Phil having the best talent, blah, blah, blah...and saying they could have coached those teams to championships...what about the Spurs. Everyone says Tim Duncan is the best power forward to ever play. I could have coached that guy to 6 les by now. Whats Pop's excuse?

Pop never slept with his bosses daughter. If he did, he would have won 15 rings by now.

[Duncan2177]

Pop never slept with his bosses daughter. If he did, he would have won 15 rings by now.

[cornbread]

Watching the Spurs play for 30+ years makes me appreciate being a Spurs fan. Why does it matter what another team does? However, if you believe trying to find flaws with another team's le makes you feel better about how the Spurs did this year...knock yourself out.

+1

Well, for 20+ years in my case.

[romain.star]

honestly, our les just feel better..we watched our core grow up together, we play in a market that has to work to attract free agents, we don't get the benefit from anybody..

I don't see the point of being a Lakers fan TBH..their franchise success is entirely based on the location of their city..they acquired Kareem because he wanted to play in the big city, Kobe demanded to be drafted there, Shaq signed there due to the location and they flipped him for Gasol..they also benefit from having Jerry West involved with the organization..

I don't see how that could be entertaining, unless you live there obviously..that's a moot point though, since most of their fans are bandwagoners..

another thing is that our franchise has built our team around 2 of the classiest superstars in NBA history..the Spurs represent the good in sports..the youth can look up to Tim Duncan and David Robinson, they represent positivity and success..

the Lakers are built around classless, disgusting individuals..Magic Johnson is an adulterer with HIV..Kobe is an alleged rapist that throws teammates under the bus, snitches on teammates, publicly calls out the team, gives up on his team in a game 7..just a horrible person in general..

I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't feel comfortable cheering for a team that has a direct advantage over every other team, and markets guys like Kobe..

What about the Clippers then?

[HarlemHeat37]

As I've mentioned before, the Clippers are a completely irrelevant team in Los Angeles..they entered the NBA as an expansion team during the Lakers Showtime years, which made them cursed to begin with..they don't have any of the advantages that the Lakers do, they don't get any of the media coverage, they don't get any attention at all..

the Lakers gained their prestige due to the location of their city, which added even more to the desire of playing in LA..as I've explained with the addition of Kareem due to his attraction(as he has admitted before), and Shaq-Kobe both demanding to be Lakers..

[IronMexican]

So the Lakers have an advantage cause they are a very stories franchise? Too bad.

[SteelerNation]

Pop never slept with his bosses daughter. If he did, he would have won 15 rings by now.

Maybe Spurs fans should pitch in and pay for the first date if it means 15 les.

[SteelerNation]

Its funny that people say that about L.A. when New York is a bigger market and the Knicks are the most valueable franchise in the NBA. That crushes all those theories that L.A. gets les handed to them because of California. The Knicks would have 20 les by now if that were the case.

[HarlemHeat37]

New York isn't nearly as desirable, as I already said..I live here, and I love the city, but the weather sucks, the media is horrible, and players have way more pressure to perform than any other city..

[SteelerNation]

You got the biggest icon in the NBA heading that way so New York cant be all bad with no one wanting to play there.

[HarlemHeat37]

Who is that?..

I'm guessing Lebron James, even though he has given no indication that he's going to New York..I know Laker fans only listen to the media, since they can't form their own thoughts, but nothing is official at all in any way..

[SteelerNation]

Gotta like those 13 year old adolescent pop shots. Keep 'em up. You look great doing it.

[HarlemHeat37]

Way to take attention away from your lack of arguments..

[SteelerNation]

uh-huh. Thats what I did, you got me. Silly kid. You can turn a blindeye to LeBron going to New York like all the Cavs fans...doesnt bother me any. And if you are doing it just to support your illogical theory that L.A. has all these advantages over everyone else...thats fine too. I get it. You have an idea in your head and no one is gonna change it no matter how right they are.

[DrHouse]

Even Boston fans are begrudgingly giving their props to LA. The fact that Spur fan still has his head firmly stuck in the mud with his middle finger in the air says a lot about their fanbase as a whole.

A le is a le is a le. The record books care not for how great a humanitarian you are. They all count the same.

[romain.star]

As I've mentioned before, the Clippers are a completely irrelevant team in Los Angeles..they entered the NBA as an expansion team during the Lakers Showtime years, which made them cursed to begin with..they don't have any of the advantages that the Lakers do, they don't get any of the media coverage, they don't get any attention at all..

the Lakers gained their prestige due to the location of their city, which added even more to the desire of playing in LA..as I've explained with the addition of Kareem due to his attraction(as he has admitted before), and Shaq-Kobe both demanding to be Lakers..

Still, if your point is to say that the Lakers success and prestige is only due to the location of their city; the existence of the Clippers proves you wrong.
It takes more then being located in LA to have succes in this league.

In Europe for instance, Manchester, Liverpool or Turin which are possibly the ugliest places on earth (tied with Pyongyang), have among the most successfull football clubs in the world whereas places like Paris, Berlin or to a lesser extent Rome are far less attractive and prestigious.

I agree that being in LA doesn't hurt but it doesn't explain fully the Lakers success