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Do not know about the last part at the very end, but yes, he will be HOF even if that does not happen.
Awards
Italian League All-Star: 1999, 2000, 2001
Italian League Most Improved Player: 2000, 2001, 2002
Euroleague Final Four Most Valuable Player: 2001
FIBA Americas Championship Most Valuable Player: 2001
Italian Cup Most Valuable Player: 2002
All-Tournament Team, FIBA World Championship: 2002, 2006
Ideal Olympics Team: 2004
Summer Olympic Games Most Valuable Player: 2004
Olimpia de Oro: 2003, 2004 (shared with Carlos Tévez)
NBA All-Star: 2005
50 Greatest Euroleague Contributors: 2008
NBA Sixth Man of the Year Award: 2008
All-NBA Third Team: 2008
les
Italian League Championship: 2001
Italian Cup: 2001, 2002
Euroleague: 2001
Triple Crown: 2001
Americas Championship: 2001
NBA Championship: 2003, 2005, 2007
Summer Olympic Games gold medal: 2004
Summer Olympic Games bronze medal: 2008
He's only been in the NBA for 7 years with at least 5 good years left if healthy. I say at least one more championship and a Finals MVP and I Think he will definatelly get inducted. But thats just me. .......
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Do not know about the last part at the very end, but yes, he will be HOF even if that does not happen.
Ginobili is a lock for the Hall of Fame via the International Committee.
An absolute lock.
who decides who's going to the HOF?
Italian League Most Improved Player: 2000, 2001, 2002that's weird
In without a shadow of a doubt IMO. Haters flame away
Concur. It's obvious.
I already said he is a lock a long time ago
has nothing to do with what he can do now though
There are several committees that submit nominees to a greater committee, which ultimately votes. Among the committees is the international committee, which can put up as many as 2 nominees every year among those who are not covered by the North American committee, the Women's committee, and the veteran's committee.
Manu's exploits in the 2002 World Championships (All-Tournament, silver medal), the 2004 Olympics (Gold Medal, Most Valuable Player, , the 2006 World Championships (All-Tournament, 4th place), and the 2008 Olympics (Bronze medal, third in points per game, fifth in assists per game) are going to be enough alone. The fact that his 2004 Argentianian team remains the only non-American team to win an Olympic Gold Medal in the Dream Team era is enough. For the members of the international committee, Ginobili is certainly the beacon to show that a great player in an international tournament can be enough to vanquish the big, bad American teams.
Add to all of that the fact that he's had a much better than average NBA career and he's a mortal lock for Springfield.
Not to sound condescending but...
Duh.
Ginobili is as accomplished an international basketball player, as we have seen in a while. He's been a champion at every level he's ever played. An absolute lock for the HOF.
I'll be damned. I had no idea. Well that's ing cool then. Go Manu
Winning the gold in Athens made Manu as much of a mortal lock for the HOF as Shaq, Tim, Kobe, and Garnett already are.
the OP is forgetting the silver at the 2002 World Cup at Indianapolis...
Yeah, Manu will be following the basketball footsteps of Drazen Petrovic, who had a similarly distinguished international career and a similar, although shorter, NBA career, stat wise.
It will be a
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Unfortunately I do not believe Ginobili will end up getting in. Let's throw Finals MVP out of the equation because that's HIGHLY unlikely playing alongside Parker and Duncan. If it's any close the award goes to them first.
Now on the other hand if the Spurs were able to win 2 more les? It's still borderline because his career numbers just don't size up. The original post was that he will play 6 more years? I'd love to see it but I'm looking more along the lines of 3/4 more GREAT seasons. He's already 31 and consistently breaking down - obviously his aggressive playing style contributes to that.
Career wise he's a 15 points per game, 4 rebounds, and 3 assists player. Post season performances make you legendary but ask Horry, Fisher or Kukoc how that equals in HOF talk.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_active.html
Lists him at a 0.056 chance and that ranks 29th in current players.
People don't understand it's the basketball HOF and not the NBA HOF. Yes Manu really hasn't accomplished much individually in the NBA but he hasn't need to do much in the NBA to get in based on all his accomplishments internationally.
Why didn't you include his International career? It's already been explained how much weight that carries towards him getting in. And that's without him doing anything more in the NBA than he's already done.
Your right but have these international careers ever helped put a HOF career over the top? Were about to see an influx of this kind of situation come up but I honestly don't think Ginobili is gonna get in unless the Spurs win ATLEAST 1 more le. Say what you want but he has had major stretches of being a 6th man. They don't get into HOF's.....
The jury isn't out on him yet but at this moment he won't get in.
To be fair that's the role that Pop has given Manu from the start and fortunately Manu has accepted it without whining and complaining about it. If he was on any other team he would be a starter.Say what you want but he has had major stretches of being a 6th man. They don't get into HOF's.....
No doubt but on the flip side without him being a 6th man and winning les with the Spurs (I say with because he's obviously the 3rd Beatle on this team) then there wouldn't even be an discussion. Ginobili on another organization doesn't get a serious sniff at the HOF.
Just like the 90's Bulls who only got 2 players in the HOF off those rosters, sadly I think the mid-late 2000's.....the Spurs will only get Duncan and Parker in. Duncan, Parker and David Robinson. Ginobili = Sean Elliott is a rather good one. While Ginobili is more explosive and has had better ups, Sean was also more consistent. It's not fair to the rest of the NBA to give Ginobili TOO much of an edge with his international numbers.
Why? It's not the NBA Hall of Fame, it's the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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