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    let's see what he can do in the SL. gauging from his plays last summer, i would rather have him over bonner.

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    Gist will be a Spur next season...im pretty sure of it.

    Pop wants to get the youth movement started pronto.....

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    Gist will be our next Capt. Jack. Mark my words.

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    Gist is 6'8.5" with a 7'4" wingspan. He isn't that undersized for a PF.
    He would probably do well in the small-ball environment.

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    Rodman, Ben Wallace, and Barkley were all undersized...yet all were very very effective at what they did.

    i dont care about his size. i want effort, energy, and activity out there. He will bring youth, hustle, hunger, athleticism, and energy.....something we are lacking.

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    I just want Gist to improve his 3s and play 3. We're really lack of SF...

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    Gist kinda reminds me of a poor man's Ariza. Let's hope he is somewhat like that.

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    It is high time RC gets his fountain pen out and turn some ink loose!!! We need the young man on this coming season's roster. Maybe time to do a little arm twisting. I'll make a quick run up to Nuu Joisey and bring some heavy hitters down to get the job done!

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    Gist is listed at 6'9" 235. West is listed at 6'9" 240. Amare isn't exactly a post player backing down smaller guys...in today's NBA, Gist would work out just fine at PF in terms of size. Talent, of course, is yet to be determined.
    without shoes Gist measured 1'' smaller than West (which is negligible IMO) and he has a similar huge wingspan. (7'4'')
    in terms of combination of size, weight and wingspan Gist is pretty much the same type of player like Tyrus Thomas. (TT is the even better athlete, Gist is a good one, but TT is a freak). I agree that he should do well against players like West and Odom. for a pure post defender he will never be strong enough, even if he added some bulk.

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    Gist in the league will be interesting. But its a toss up between him and a few others.

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    Gist will never be the savior that Ian Mahinmi is, but the time for digging into the Seasoned Veterans Bag has past.

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    1) Gist mainly played the post with Biella. Cetainly not the 3.

    2) He was the number 3/4 option in the team, and for a reason. He could go a whole quarter without touching the ball, other than for defensive rebounds.

    3) He was a non factor in the series with Milano, which could have brought Biella to the Finals.

    4) He is not ready for the NBA yet. He seems to know he needs another year in a more compe ive environment.

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    Rodman, Ben Wallace, and Barkley were all undersized...yet all were very very effective at what they did.

    i dont care about his size. i want effort, energy, and activity out there. He will bring youth, hustle, hunger, athleticism, and energy.....something we are lacking.
    Rodman, Wallace and Barkley were all great players, Gist is not. He is undersized, and I may be overstating the impact that will have, but I know the Spurs have to beat the Lakers and Pau and Bynum and Odom are not undersized.

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    1) Gist mainly played the post with Biella. Cetainly not the 3.

    2) He was the number 3/4 option in the team, and for a reason. He could go a whole quarter without touching the ball, other than for defensive rebounds.

    3) He was a non factor in the series with Milano, which could have brought Biella to the Finals.

    4) He is not ready for the NBA yet. He seems to know he needs another year in a more compe ive environment.
    -Gist has been a natural 4 most of his career; anything he is planning to do at the 3 is a work in progress, and he knows that. His number of 3 point attempts suggests that he's attempting to extend his range beyond a typical PF, but for the Spurs his position flexibility on the defensive end is more important than on the offensive end.

    -His role on the Spurs would be more of a rebounder and defender than offensive weapon. San Antonio already has a lot of scoring options, they need more defense, rebounding, and athleticism to mix with it.

    -I've heard a lot of people talk about "NBA readiness," and most of the time I'm not sure what they mean. Is Gist ready to start on any NBA team and play 30 minutes per game? Probably not, nor are most of the guys who will be selected in the first round of this year's draft. However, I think Gist IS ready to play 10 mpg as a rebound and energy guy, or at the very least learn the Spurs system in detail and spend some time in Austin. In either case, experience is the best teacher.

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    1) Gist mainly played the post with Biella. Cetainly not the 3.

    2) He was the number 3/4 option in the team, and for a reason. He could go a whole quarter without touching the ball, other than for defensive rebounds.

    3) He was a non factor in the series with Milano, which could have brought Biella to the Finals.

    4) He is not ready for the NBA yet. He seems to know he needs another year in a more compe ive environment.
    sorry, but this is a bit harsh.
    he was the teams #2 scorer and #1 rebounder. Bizo (who saw many games with him) called him the best player on this Biella team.
    he wasn't good against Milano, but also not a total disaster. he had one really bad game, the other were average. he was quite good in the surprising win over Roma in the first round and a big factor why Biella won the series.
    if he's ready or not.....I don't know. it's not that he would come in and claim a starting spot. if he gets 10-15 MPG it's ok.
    but I would disagree with all who say he should play with the Toros. this would be a regress. in this case he should better stay in Europe for another year.

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    He is undersized, and I may be overstating the impact that will have, but I know the Spurs have to beat the Lakers and Pau and Bynum and Odom are not undersized.
    Bynum I'll give you, but based purely on size, I don't see how Gist is incapable of guarding Gasol or Odom.

    Gist will be listed at 6'9" in the NBA, at least 235 pounds, and has a 7'4" wingspan.

    Odom: 6'10", 230 pounds, 7'0" wingspan (according to a Pat Riley quote on Odom's website).
    http://www.lamarodom.com/index.php?q=biography/3

    Gasol: 7'0", 250 pounds, 7'5" wingspan (according to an SI article).
    http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...01/1/index.htm

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    san antonio has a lot of scoring options?
    sarsly?
    Do you seriously think James Gist needs to be a scoring option if he's on the floor with Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Tim Duncan, Roger Mason, or (to a lesser extent) Michael Finley or Matt Bonner? (don't pan me on the last one, Bonner averaged 8 ppg in 24 mpg last year)

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    Bynum I'll give you, but based purely on size, I don't see how Gist is incapable of guarding Gasol or Odom.

    Gist will be listed at 6'9" in the NBA, at least 235 pounds, and has a 7'4" wingspan.

    Odom: 6'10", 230 pounds, 7'0" wingspan (according to a Pat Riley quote on Odom's website).
    http://www.lamarodom.com/index.php?q=biography/3

    Gasol: 7'0", 250 pounds, 7'5" wingspan (according to an SI article).
    http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...01/1/index.htm
    Gasol is a legit 7'0 and was shooting over the top of Dwight Howard. If you are relying strictly on wingspan to make up the difference, I am not sure.

    Oberto is listed as 6'10 and that is taller than Gist and he was not one of the bigger PF's/C.

    Odom is very long and is still listed as an inch taller, I would like to see them side by side.

    Point is, any combo of Gist and another big man will be a dramatically smaller front line than Bynum/Pau/Odom and that is who the Spurs have to beat. I am not saying Gist will have 0 success, but that it would be more helpful if he could fulfill the long 3 role rather than the very mediocre sized PF role. His wingspan is nice and if he can be a Tyrus Thomas type body and player that would be a huge bonus, but he seems pretty far off of that as of right now.

    Having said all of that, I would still like to see him in some role on the Spurs. I think he has shown some potential, and the Spurs need youth/athleticism/energy. It would be nice if he could give some minutes off the bench in various situations.

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    He would probably do well in the small-ball environment.
    as tall as west

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    as tall as west
    How does West do guarding Bynum/Pau/Odom?

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    i can tell just from looking at pictures of him that he would be a vast improvement over Bonner

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    i can tell just from looking at pictures of him that he would be a vast improvement over Bonner
    With regards to what? Not 3 point shooting. Not height and strength.

    Gist will be a better all around defender I think, but Bonner did a decent job on the perimeter and down low except when he was asked to guard West, Amare...I am not so sure that Gist would do much better against those type of offensive players, he might and he is certainly more athletic and "long".

    He will be much better at running the floor and finishing at the rim.

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    CRC21209 stole my post. Well done! I don't expect anything from the draft. The team became too, too dependent on 3's from Mason and Bonner. Against Dallas they disappeared an so did our offense. Gist, Mahimni and a "free agent' big should add size and athleticism. The Spurs also really need to find one backup point guard to relieve Tony and contribute--- not just maintain[a la Speedy Claxton]. If George Hill can fill the void that would be great. Mainly we need to build a bench so that Tim, Manu and Tony don't have to play too many back to backs or too many minutes. Build a better bench and the Spurs will be back.

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    -I've heard a lot of people talk about "NBA readiness," and most of the time I'm not sure what they mean. Is Gist ready to start on any NBA team and play 30 minutes per game? Probably not, nor are most of the guys who will be selected in the first round of this year's draft. However, I think Gist IS ready to play 10 mpg as a rebound and energy guy, or at the very least learn the Spurs system in detail and spend some time in Austin. In either case, experience is the best teacher.
    This really sums it up best. Gist is the ultimate low risk/high reward investment they can make.

    As a second rounder, he can be paid the absolute minimum allowed and the contract does not have to be guaranteed until January. In the months from July to December, the Spurs should be able to determine if he can contribute enough to stay on on the active roster. If not, perhaps he at least shows enough promise to keep as a project for those first two inexpensive seasons when he can get PT in Austin.

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    This really sums it up best. Gist is the ultimate low risk/high reward investment they can make.

    As a second rounder, he can be paid the absolute minimum allowed and the contract does not have to be guaranteed until January. In the months from July to December, the Spurs should be able to determine if he can contribute enough to stay on on the active roster. If not, perhaps he at least shows enough promise to keep as a project for those first two inexpensive seasons when he can get PT in Austin.
    Do you think Gist would rather play in Austin or overseas? What would be better for his basketball development and his pocketbook?

    Some players Austin benefits, some it does not as much as playing overseas.

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