Some conversation here:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128620
50.) Steve Nash.
49.) Walt Bellamy.
48.) Dennis Rodman.
47.) Earl Monroe.
46.) Bob McAdoo.
45.) George Gervin.
44.) Dave Cowens.
43.) Dominique Wilkins.
42.) LeBron James.
41.) Clyde Drexler.
40.) Billy Cunningham.
39.) Allen Iverson.
38.) Gary Payton.
37.) Jerry Lucas.
36.) Patrick Ewing.
35.) Walt Frazier.
34.) Dolph Schayes.
33.) Nate Thurmond.
32.) Wes Unseld.
31.) Willis Reed.
30.) Kevin Garnett.
29.) George Mikan.
28.) Jason Kidd.
27.) Scottie Pippen.
26.) Kevin McHale.
25.) David Robinson.
24.) Bob Cousy.
23.) Elvin Hayes.
22.) John Stockton.
21.) Rick Barry.
20.) Charles Barkley.
19.) Isiah Thomas.
18.) Karl Malone.
17.) John Havlicek.
16.) Moses Malone.
15.) Julius Erving.
14.) Bob Pe .
13.) Hakeem Olajuwon.
12.) Kobe Bryant.
11.) Elgin Baylor.
10.) Jerry West.
9.) Larry Bird.
8.) Tim Duncan.
7.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
6.) Magic Johnson.
5.) Oscar Robertson.
4.) Shaquille O'Neal.
3.) Bill Russell.
2.) Wilt Chamberlain.
1.) Michael Jordan.
Some conversation here:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128620
I think they got #1 wrong. Why is Kobe not there?
Jason Kidd seems a bit high on that list to me... Surprised to see nash on there at 50.
Kobe and Shaq over Hakeem is sheer insanity.
Barkley and Hayes over Robinson?
Shaq over Magic?
Oscar and Shaq over Kareem?
There is too much fail in this "article".
, sorry. Didn't see it
It's all good.
It was quite the conversation, I thought you might be interested in it.
kobe and lebron are waaaay too low and hakeem is waaaay too high. and where is steve francis? garnett should be in the top 5 just on his intensity alone. and srsly why is j kidd at 28? that guy should be somewhere around jerry west. for s sake he only averaged 13.8 ppg and 9.2 apg on 40% field goal %....what the does a guy have to do to get in the top 10 of all time? shoot over 41%? that!
im canceling my subscription just because they had nash at 50. pathetic
shaq shouldn't be that much ahead of duncan. i can entertain the argument that shaq was slightly better than duncan in their primes. however, both won four championships, 3 finals mvps, but duncan won one more mvp than shaq.
To be fair, Shaq was robbed in 01. Then again, so was Duncan in 99.
Looking at that list, there's no way Dirk shouldn't be on it.
Nash being on that list is debatable, but Rodman?
Fixed
13.) Hakeem Olajuwon.
12.) Oscar Robertson
11.) Elgin Baylor.
10.) Jerry West
9.) Kobe Bryant
8.) Larry Bird.
7.) Tim Duncan.
6.) Shaq O'neal
5.) Magic Johnson.
4.) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3.) Bill Russell.
2.) Wilt Chamberlain.
1.) Michael Jordan.
Serious question...Shaq above Tim? Why? How? I'm being very serious.
Why the does everyone overrate Shaq so much? He is more like the 4th best C ever
not even that. Russell, Hakeem, Kareem, Chamberlain, and Mikan are ahead of him. He's the 4th best C in Lakers history.
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Thanks for that. I had grilled chicken from kcf for the first time tonight and it wasn't what i thought it would be, so I was kinda down. Until I saw this.
Shaq was just more dominant. He changed rules. Tim was great no doubt, but he could be stopped if you put sum1 long with a very high basketball IQ on him (very difficult), but there was nobody who could stop Shaq 1on1 without fouling when he was in prime. In fact there were very few who could stop him from just backing them down and dunking on them
If Shaq played in Mikan or Russell's era he would have averaged 70 points a game.
in their primes, shaq was more dominant than duncan. duncan had a more all around game with strengths in defense, offensive moves, rebounding, passing, and shotblocking . but shaq was just a better scorer because he could back down anyone and hit any over the shoulder shot and he was a good rebounder/shotblocker. he didn't have to develop creative ways to score or add a jump shot because it just didn't matter. no one could stop him without fouling. i say right now they are about even. however, once duncan wins one or two more championships, he will move ahead of shaq.
I still can't get over the Mikan is better than Shaq comment.
Shaquille O'Neal takes nothing seriously. It's his blessing and his curse. It's why he can entertain millions of fans with his comedy, dancing and critical observations. It's why he can miss more than 5,100 free throws in his career and never win a rebounding le. It's part of the reason why Steve Nash met with general manager Steve Kerr in New York on Thursday, as the point guard wants some roster assurances before moving forward with a contract extension. The problem isn't a personality clash. It's that Nash and O'Neal can't co-exist on the court. You could not piece together a worse combination to defend the pick-and-roll, one of the most elementary plays in the NBA. It's one of the glaring flaws in this basketball team, and for that and other reasons, O'Neal must be traded in the coming months. When it happens, you wonder what he'll type next. ... Trading Shaq can and should work for everybody. In Phoenix, there will be some addition by subtraction. And in the tough-luck town of Cleveland, fans are already atwitter with new hope. Just wait until the big guy wants his touches."
From the Phoenix paper ...and why he is NOT top 5 ...seems everyone wants to forget the sweeps, pettiness and crappy FT shooting and lack of boards because of the 3 rings and because at time he is hilarious ...
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