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    I found this link in another I was looking at, and found it interesting. At least San Antonio is looking OK. My areas prediction is 2013 for recovery.

    Interactive: When will the nation's job markets return to normal?


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    San Antonio decided not to participate. It's actually been pretty remarkable. Technically we never actually went into recession unemployment to begin with... so there really isn't a time table for when we'll return to a pre recession marker. I think we've been around 5.5% the entire time.

    I think Vegas should be in dark red, but maybe not because of the influx of Cali residents. Some would say it would just increase unemployement... some would say it would bring businesses in due to the old retail follows rooftops saying.

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    Yay, 2014 (or beyond)! I'll only be 34 (or older).

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    That map pretty much disproves the illegals are stealing our jobs argument.

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    That map pretty much disproves the illegals are stealing our jobs argument.
    I don't really think that most sensible people consider that to be a hugely valid argument beyond its ability to ignite the masses. The more valid one to me is that people are working and getting benefits for living here, but not paying the income taxes because they are here illegally.

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    I don't really think that most sensible people consider that to be a hugely valid argument beyond its ability to ignite the masses. The more valid one to me is that people are working and getting benefits for living here, but not paying the income taxes because they are here illegally.
    All the more reason to dump income tax for consumption tax, but that's another conversation.

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    All the more reason to dump income tax for consumption tax, but that's another conversation.
    I agree with you there 100 million percent. Stupid freaking income tax...

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    All the more reason to dump income tax for consumption tax, but that's another conversation.
    Or make it easier for migrant workers to come here legally, so they will pay income tax.

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    Or make it easier for migrant workers to come here legally, so they will pay income tax.
    I don't think you'll get many conservatives agreeing with you, as most seem to be worried about border security more than getting more taxes/fiscal responsibility.

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    I don't think you'll get many conservatives agreeing with you
    Agreed. This is one issue I thought Bush was right about and I part ways with most of my fellow conservatives. Probably because I grew up in San Antonio so I'm not prone to "Oh my god, it's a mexican! He gonna steal my job!".

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    I'm all for importing hard working Mexicans and deporting...oh snap.

    Cool find on that map. My friend just got a masters and was crying about having to fill out tons of applications. I was like "You are in Texas ffs, unemployment is 5+% below the natl average and Austin/San Antonio were top 2 on some list that ranked places where young people are most likely to find jobs in the country."

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    I don't think you'll get many conservatives agreeing with you, as most seem to be worried about border security more than getting more taxes/fiscal responsibility.
    i'm all for legal aliens. everyone should be. this is america. at least for now.

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    Can you imagine living in one of those places where recovery is "2014 or beyond"??

    Talk about a ed up situation.

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    Neat find, WC.

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    IHS Global Insight is predicting a three year jobs slump for most of the country. Ouch.

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    i'm all for legal aliens. everyone should be. this is america. at least for now.
    Has anyone conservative said otherwise? Liberals like to group illegal and legal together. Note that conservatives most often distinguish between the two.

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    Has anyone conservative said otherwise? Liberals like to group illegal and legal together. Note that conservatives most often distinguish between the two.
    libs just need an excuse to hear themselves talk. it makes them feel alive.

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    if you want to tackle unemployment, kick out all the illegals then the unemployed are force to take jobs...

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    I hate seeing like this, cause when it gets out we run the risk of having those people in red come here

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    Or make it easier for migrant workers to come here legally, so they will pay income tax.
    You'd still have to worry about whether or not all those workers are legal migrant workers paying income tax or if they're an illegal migrant worker. If we dump income tax entirely and go consumption tax we don't have to worry about whether they're legal or not. If they're buying stuff in America, they're paying the tax.

    That being said, I'm not opposed to some kind of migrant worker plan.

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    I don't think you'll get many conservatives agreeing with you, as most seem to be worried about border security more than getting more taxes/fiscal responsibility.
    Don't confuse neo-cons with conservatives.

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    Agreed. This is one issue I thought Bush was right about and I part ways with most of my fellow conservatives. Probably because I grew up in San Antonio so I'm not prone to "Oh my god, it's a mexican! He gonna steal my job!".

    Also grew up in SA, but now I live in Western Pa (where Jose is pronounced Joe's) - and HERE is where people are ing about the illegals - have no clue; 96% anglo. Map is amazing; good to see that the nation isn't paying attention to the way Texas is managing it's business; wouldn't want to spread that kind of thing around; much better to replicate what the NE and California have done!

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    I hate seeing like this, cause when it gets out we run the risk of having those people in red come here
    They are already there, and more are coming. EVERYONE around here (Pa) has family that has moved to Texas.

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    San Antonio doesn't have to recover because it never participated, same with most of Texas. The express-news has run several articles over the past few years about it. Low cost of living, high military presence, medical services based industry, so on and so forth.

    They actually ran one a few days ago. San Antonio was ranked #1, Detroit last. Bunch of other texas cities in the top 10.

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    My uncle and brother both temporarily moved to Texas about 2 years ago, iirc.

    Brother came back, uncle moved with his company to Vegas.

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