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he'll do an arenas and act like he took less for the team
Will he demand the max or won't he? I'm sure he will. If he wants another championship he'll settle for $80M/5 yrs in order to accomodate other talent but it's Kobe! And I'm sure all the pressure will come down on all the other Lakers to sign for lesser money and all these fanboys will come to Kobe's defense to do just about anything as usual.
I'm going to laugh if he actually signs with a euro-team and lets his fanboys down. Ya'll can chant M-V-P in Italy
he'll do an arenas and act like he took less for the team
After his max 7 year contract, Tim Duncan signed two extensions, first a three year deal worth about $63 million, and then a 2 year $40 million extension. That's $103 million over five years worth of extensions and people call Tim Duncan a saint for taking less. But, Kobe should settle for $80 million in five years or he's selfish?
Think about that.
If Kobe does opt out for an extension, around $100 million over five years would seem pretty fair in terms of what he's worth and still trying to accommodate the franchise.
Rings or money?
I say Kobe goes for Rings and somehow some way somebody's gonna flip it around and say he did it for his own selfish reasons.
Kobe is about winning championships and if that's what it takes to sign both Ariza & Odom to keep this current run going, he just may do that.Will he demand the max or won't he? I'm sure he will. If he wants another championship he'll settle for $80M/5 yrs in order to accomodate other talent but it's Kobe! And I'm sure all the pressure will come down on all the other Lakers to sign for lesser money and all these fanboys will come to Kobe's defense to do just about anything as usual.
I'm going to laugh if he actually signs with a euro-team and lets his fanboys down. Ya'll can chant M-V-P in Italy
Not that he has too; Dr. Buss would pay Kobe plus Odom & Ariza, if possible, to maintain this group.
What's with all the Kobe bashing?
Not Kobe's job to pay Lakers employees. Best player in the league should get paid as such.
This is a non-issue though. Kobe doesn't need to take a pay cut in order for the Lakers to bring the team back. Buss and Co. can *gasp* actually afford to pay the luxury tax. Not Kobe's fault they decided to give Sasha ing Vujacic 15 million. Don't go crying to Kobe for gifts, his NBA lifespan is limited. The Lakers are a gold mine and will be around long after Kobe is retired. Paying for a championship team would be an investment.
If he really wants more rings, he should take as less as he can. He's making tons from things outside of basketball.
This is a stupid, illogical argument. Else we should criticize every superstar in the NBA for not taking the MLE so the their team could sign other superstars.
And you're a dumb got, so if you need help knocking the stool from under your feet, let me know.
Thought about it.
The Spurs don't have Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Trevor Ariza, Kobe Bryant all on one team. Over the years sustaining that talent pool is going to take a TON of money. Their talent-pool is unmatched.
But hey, if Dr. Bus can afford to have his cake and eat it too, good for him. I will really be shocked if they pull this off. In the years ahead, Bynum alone is going to get big offers, let's not even get into the rest.
So the fanboys are furious that someone suggested Kobe take $16M/yr which doesnt include endorsements and entrepreneurial activity? AWWW POOR BABY, how will Kobe live!
Fact is the Lakers are over the salary cap. This is a luxury tax issue. Kobe taking any sort of "paycut" would only be saving Buss/AEG some dollars. Has nothing to do with "keeping the team together," as last I checked, the Lakers are carrying bags loot around from two long playoff runs the last two seasons. Those aren't happening with a ty team on the floor.
Kobe generates infinitely more revenue for the league and the Lakers then he gets paid. The Lakers can afford to pay the team - so why is Kobe taking a pay cut even relevant? It's not. It's nothing more than a sports media talking point issue to paint Kobe in a negative light.
As is, the Lakers haven't asked Kobe to do such thing and I highly doubt they will. It would be nothing less than an insult.
People always say these superstars should make less money. I think it has a lot more to do with pride than the money sometimes.
Kobe isn't going to take less. And if he does, it wont be something significant like an 80 million dollar contract. Probably something like $110 million.
I just realized you're suggesting Kobe take $16M/year. Now THAT is crazy overboard...that's only about half of what he can make. He would be walking away from about $65 million over 5 years.
Kobe's eligible for almost $30 million/year. If he takes $25 million or less, he's done more than his part in keeping the team together. Even that is pretty drastic as it works out to be about $25 million less over 5 years.
Rashard Lewis, Shawn Marion and Jermaine O' Neal make more than $16 Million.
alrite alrite alrite, good point.. see, there is at least one poster here receptive to opposing viewpoints
so what your telling me.. in the years ahead, Dr. Bus can actually afford to match every single offer made to Bryant, Gasol, Odom, Bynum, Ariza?
Bynum alone will eventually get offered that $80M/5yr deal from a team like New Jersey, the deal I am endorsing Kobe settle to take lol
Hey look, if Dr. Bus can have his cake and eat it too, good for him. But let's remember, powerhouse teams don't always win the championship. It's been 8 years sine the Yankees made the world series, 9 years since they won.
And look at what happened to the Red Wings a few months ago.
Believe.
If Kobe actually took 5 year 80 million, though, I'd be so ing pumped and happy.
The way Lebron tried to match Kobe's 61 points in MSG I'm sure he'll try to match Kobe's contract. It's hard to see this going on much longer without another lockout occurring.
The Lakers can match any offer to any of those players because they have the Bird rights to those players. It's a matter if they want to. And, much of that will depend on the continued success of the Lakers. They can afford it. And, Andrew Bynum is locked up for the next four seasons. When he's up for a new contract, the Lakers will have eliminated some of their dead weight contracts like Vujacic and Walton.alrite alrite alrite, good point.. see, there is at least one poster here receptive to opposing viewpoints
so what your telling me.. in the years ahead, Dr. Bus can actually afford to match every single offer made to Bryant, Gasol, Odom, Bynum, Ariza?
Bynum alone will eventually get offered that $80M/5yr deal from a team like New Jersey, the deal I am endorsing Kobe settle to take lol
Hey look, if Dr. Bus can have his cake and eat it too, good for him. But let's remember, powerhouse teams don't always win the championship. It's been 8 years sine the Yankees made the world series, 9 years since they won.
And look at what happened to the Red Wings a few months ago.
Believe.
As for your Red Wings example, not sure why you would mention them. They won the Stanley Cup last year in 2008 and were back in the Stanley Cup Finals this year. They lost, but they are actually a model franchise in terms of balancing a salary cap and keeping talent. The NHL has a hard cap so there is no luxury tax. There is no way to keep all superstars on one team. The Red Wings are actually the type of front office successful teams should follow in terms of balancing talent and finances.
Agreed on all counts.
If kobe accepts less than the max it would a great moment for sports.
Him starting a bidding war over his contract will just add fuel to all the hater-fire burning around him. There is a reason why Tim Duncan isn't a polarizing figure and Bryant is. It's funny how everyone acts shocked Kobe gets the criticism that he does.
Kudos to you for wanting your favorite player to do a self-less act. And I'm not holding Kobe to a double-standard here. Because of all the games he's been missing as of late and his age I think Ginobili should consider a modest paycut. That would definitely help the Spurs reconstruct.
[Odom]: “Hopefully, it won’t take that long,” he said, joking about upcoming contract negotiations. “In and out, three years, 80 million.”
Can we all agree here that he is or should be joking lol
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns
Did the "he said, joking" part give it away?
He doesn't need to take a paycut. The Lakers make money. If they pay Kobe less they will make MORE money and if they pay him more, less money. But it won't enable them to do anything they couldn't do already.
Duncan took less money because SA cannot afford (literally) to tale on more salary. LA can.
Here's a food for thought:
Kobe wants to finish his career as a Laker. His ring only makes him all the more happy to stay (and him being the main guy for that matter, too). But it would be interesting to see what Kobe would do if Buss offered him less money. Would he bolt or reluctantly accept? This most likely won't be the case but it's still an interesting scenario.
Duncan228 posted the article that Kobe is staying the next two years instead of opting out.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129034
It looks like Kobe's answered the question for us.
He's leaving $13 million on the table right there instead of opting out an re-signing for alot more.
Now it's time for Buss to up the Ante and take the extra hit on Lamar and Ariza.
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