Looks like the government police are out in huge force and there have been lots of clashes. Their government TV is reporting a blast so I'm sure they're going to try to blame that on the reformers.
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Suicide bomber kills self at Tehran shrine: report
Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:59am EDT
TEHRAN (Reuters) - A suicide bomber blew himself up near the shrine of Iran's revolutionary founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, in Tehran on Saturday, Iran's semi-official Mehr news agency reported.
"A few minutes ago a suicide bomber blew himself up at the shrine," Mehr quoted a police official, Hossein Sajedinia, as saying.
Two other people were wounded in the incident in the northern wing of the shrine, another news agency, Fars, said.
Elsewhere in Tehran Iranian riot police used teargas to disperse demonstrators protesting against a disputed presidential election, a witness said.
Iran's English-language Press TV said police used teargas to disperse demonstrators at Tehran's Enghelab square.
Most of the reformists on the internet are blaming the government although there is speculation that it might be the work of some anti government groups. I'd lay heavy odds that it was the regime though. Seems exactly like what they would do and what a lot of people expected after listening to the speech yesterday.
Andrew Sullivan's blog is a great source of running info today. It has been throughout the episode but even moreso today.
Just think how bad it would've been had Obama been more critical.
Actually, there was a very good discussion of Obama's handling of this situation on Charlie Rose last night. The four guests he had on were able to have a rational discussion about it without resorting to childish name calling. All of them pretty much agreed that they wouldn't be surprised to see that admin take a more critical stance as these events unfold.
They haven't posted the video yet.
http://www.charlierose.com/schedule/
Does this surprise you? Have you seen Charlie Rose before?
No and yes.
Just think how much it would have helped.
What a bunch of ish thieves : p
Just think how much it would have helped.
Yeah, they're just words. Hmm, that reminds me of a familiar speech.
Hmm, that reminds me the theocracy is looking for any excuse to use more violence on the protesters.
Why do you hate the protesters, Darrin?
11.40 am. Mousavi: I Am Ready For Death.
Darrin can't wrap his head around the fact that they don't need us to do anything for them right. He's been told the lie that the only way those people succeed is if we do something - anything - to facilitate them. He just refuses to acknowledge the sentiment of the Iranian people regarding American interference and he continues to try to make this about Obama when it is about the Persian people who have had enough and no one else.
Darrins is so cynical it hurts my head.
You're dead wrong on this subject and that's a fact. Not an opinion. If some of the reformers had the stench of the U.S. on them then it wouldn't just be the regime vs. the reformers, it'd be the reformers vs. the regime and the reformers. You seem to read just about every conservative blog you can find and you probably just let it form your opinions for you. As Extra Stout used yesterday "My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts".
I think it's good that Mousavi is still fighting this. I can't imagine the regime will allow him to live much longer. Probably execute him on treason or some . If that happens then the will seriously hit the fan and that could be the catalyst for all out revolution.
They won't kill him. I can almost promise you they won't make him a martyr. The worst that will happen is they will exile him, but I can't imagine them being so stupid as to make him a martyr in a society that absolutely loves its martyrs.
I hate to say it, but I have no reason to believe the regime won't succeed right now. They are sniffling the crowds today, and unless the crowds are simply greater than I have given them credit for today they won't ever reach a "critical mass" and eventually people will tire.
I hope they continue as long as possible and I hope they don't give up, but the odds are long.
That just might do it. If he dies, he gets martyr status, and we all know how much Muslims regard martyrs.
Got damn it. Quit your . I'm trying to make points here and you beating me by a minute or two is pissing me off.
Your missing the fact that he can make himself a martyr. He doesn't need the regime to do anything for him to become one.
A twitter message on the daily dish.
Maybe Jman is onto something....
12.02 pm. Mousavi tells he's bathed [ritually] for martyrdom.
holy balls.
This is some crazy happening in Iran. It's almost like someone planted a seed of democracy in the middle east and now it's trying to spread.
So we're only getting peripheral footage and pictures to the actual demonstration?
They're saying that there aren't as many people protesting.
But I think it's just that they're cracking down on large protests... so instead of a few large protests... you have a lot of small, spread out ones. So naturally we're not gonna see the full picture. I think all the people will come out for a big protest at night when it's harder for the police to see what's going on and easier for the protesters to escape.
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