The only reason he has won those rings was because he got MASSIVE support. He had one of the greatest Centers in history by his side in 99 and 03, Had 3 allstars in 05 and and in 07.
Championship wise (media wise) Duncan would be considered one of the top 10 of all time only because of his rings and he was the best player on the team when they won those rings. Obviously no credit is given to teammates.
Statistical wise Tim Duncan is nothing but a Soft Kevin Garnet TYpe....
Discuss.....
Tim Duncan is an overrated hand clapper.
Statistical wise KG > Duncan yet I dont see KG get the praise Duncan gets.
Wow... you need to be pinked.
Oh and...
Jordan. He was a quitter.
Statistics are important, but winning is most important. Duncan's winning pct and les prove his greatness. Duncan is clearly in the top 10 and has potential to finish top 5.
Garnett isn't in that league. In fact, his legacy should be multiple first round losses and the inability to come through under pressure. Look how many times he missed FTs and shots in close games, even in his le year. Even PJ Brown is more clutch. Boston fans know how A-Rod Garnett becomes when it counts.
But, that 3 over a charging Daddy last Spring was choice.
Overrate this.
* 2-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 2002, 2003
* 4-time NBA Champion: 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007
* 3-time NBA Finals MVP: 1999, 2003, 2005
* IBM Player Award: 2002
* The Sporting News MVP Award: 2002, 2003
* In 2003, became only the 3rd player to win NBA MVP, IBM, and TSN Awards in the same season
* 11-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
* 10-time starter (2000–2009)
* NBA All-Star Game Co-MVP: 2000
* 12-time All-NBA:
* First Team: 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007
* Second Team: 2006, 2008, 2009
* 12-time All-Defensive:
* First Team: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008
* Second Team: 1998, 2004, 2006, 2009
* NBA All-Rookie First Team: 1998
* NBA Rookie of the Year: 1998
* NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 2002 (764)
* NBA regular-season leader, total rebounds: 2002 (1,042)
* One of only four players to receive All-NBA First Team honors in each of his first 8 seasons (1998-2005), along with Hall of Famers Bob Pet (10 seasons), Larry Bird (9 seasons), and Oscar Robertson (9 seasons).
* Only player in NBA history to receive All-NBA and All-Defensive honors in his first 12 seasons (1998-2009).
* NBA playoff records:
* Most consecutive field goals made, none missed: 12 (May 17, 2006 vs. the Dallas Mavericks; tied with Larry McNeill)
* NBA Finals records:
* Most blocks averaged per game, series: 5.3 (2003 NBA Finals)
* ACC Male Athlete of the Year: 1997
* John R. Wooden Award: 1997
* Naismith College Player of the Year: 1997
* USBWA College Player of the Year (1997)
* ACC Player of the Year (1996, 1997)
* Named to the ACC 50th Anniversary Men's Basketball Team: 2002
* On February 18 2006, Named one of the Next 10 Greatest Players by TNT broadcasting crew
* On August 16 2007, named starting PF on Sports Illustrated's All-Time NBA team
* On May 4 2007, named by the Association for Professional Basketball Research as one of "100 Greatest Professional Basketball Players of The 20th Century", the youngest player on that list
Edit: My bad, I grabbed a copy that wasn't updated. Dwight Howard just broke this record with 9 blocks in game 4.
* Most blocks, one game: 8 (decisive Game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals; also had 21 points, 20 rebounds, and 10 assists in the same game)
Last edited by duncan228; 06-20-2009 at 06:01 PM.
duncan228, they're just trying to get yer goat. Duncan is the goodsPERIOD
Obviously this guy is trying to get a rise because of some of teh ant-kobe stuff on here and at other sites.
Again Duncan is > Shaq not as great as Hakeem or Kareem at their best ...but because of consistency he has to be at least = Hakeem, hakeem did it better but Duncan was great for longer ...Kareem as well
Yes I agree Media wise (ring wise) TD > KG only because TD had a better supporting cast. Look at 08 when KG got his cast, he got a ring. KG is better statistically than TD
Duncan s all over KG in terms of leadership.
Hakeem was great from 1985-1997. It's not his fault his teams sucked ass from 1988-1993. Supposedly this was his down period even though he averaged something like 25/14/4/4 during this time period, and even posted 37 points/18 rebounds in a playoff series.
TD has more career ppg, rebounds per game, and a better fg%
fail.
i think tacker wants to piss off 228 coz of this:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123212
KG is not better in areas that don't show in the statistics, mainly presence in the paint. He isn't a classic back to the basket post-up guy but more of a jump shooter. KG is a solid defender on the perimeter, a good guy to use for traps, but interior defense is where it counts most. Duncan is superior to KG in this regard.
As far as supporting cast is concerned, whose fault was that? I think his enormous contract was a hinderance, no? And he wasn't the easiest guy to get along with.
Yes he did get his ring. 10 losses in the playoffs; nearly bounced by the Cavs ESF. Pierce carried the way in the 7th game, PJ Brown hit the clutch shots.
Yeah, I know. I just happened to have Duncan's resume handy. It speaks for him. Tacker's opinion means nothing to me.
I would love to see KG take a team with no all stars and win MVP, win the finals, and win the Finals MVP. Like Tim did in 2003.
KG couldn't win until he got two future (borderline) hall of famers by his side. And Peirce had to carry his choking ass on his back.
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